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Melbourne's 2000 National Draft - what a waste

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We had the chance to draft kids like Daniel Kerr, Drew Petrie, Chris Newman, Corey Jones or Kane Cornes after the 2000 Grand Final.

2000 AFL National Draft

1. St Kilda - Nick Riewoldt (Southport)

2. St Kilda - Justin Koschitzke (Murray Bushrangers)

3. Collingwood - Alan Didak (Port Adelaide Magpies)

4. Carlton - Luke Livingston (Bendigo Pioneers)

5. West Coast - Andrew McDougall (Perth)

6. Kangaroos - Dylan Smith (Sandringham Dragons)

7. Adelaide - Laurence Angwin (Dandenong Stingrays)

8. Kangaroos - Daniel Motlop (Wanderers/North Adelaide)

9. Richmond - Kayne Pettifer (Murray Bushrangers)

10. Western Bulldogs - Jordon McMahon (Glenelg)

11. Carlton - Trent Sporn (North Adelaide)

12. Port Adelaide - Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide Magpies)

13. Brisbane Lions - Ashley McGrath (South Fremantle)

14. Kangaroos - Daniel Harris (Bendigo Pioneers)

15. Carlton - Simon Wiggins (Tassie Mariners)

16. Melbourne - Scott Thompson (Port Adelaide Magpies)

17. Essendon - James Davies (Xavier College)

18. West Coast - Daniel Kerr (East Fremantle)

19. Collingwood - Jason Cloke (Eastern Ranges)

20. Port Adelaide - Kane Cornes (Glenelg)

21. Hawthorn - Nick Ries (Sandringham Dragons)

22. Brisbane Lions - Richard Hadley (Brisbane Lions)

23. Kangaroos - Drew Petrie (North Ballarat Rebels)

24. Sydney - Luke Ablett (Gippsland Power)

25. Richmond - Mark Coughlan (Perth)

26. Western Bulldogs - Shane Birss (Gippsland Power)

27. Essendon - Ted Richards (Xavier College/Sandringham Dragons)

28. Hawthorn - Steven Greene (Sandringham Dragons)

29. Brisbane Lions - Jamie Charman (Cairns Saints/Northern Eagles)

30. Kangaroos - Saverio Rocca (Collingwood)

31. Carlton - Blake Campbell (Murray Bushrangers)

32. Essendon - Sam Hunt (Geelong Falcons)

33. Brisbane Lions - Martin Pike (Kangaroos)

34. Collingwood - Ryan Lonie (Dandenong Stingrays)

35. Port Adelaide - Alan Murray (Murray Bushrangers)

36. West Coast - Jeremy Humm (North Ballarat Rebels)

37. Collingwood - Guy Richards (Eastern Ranges)

38. Adelaide - Michael Handby (Dandenong Stingrays)

39. Fremantle - Adam McPhee (Dandenong Stingrays)

40. Richmond - Chris Hyde (Murray Bushrangers)

41. Richmond - Andrew Krakouer (South Fremantle)

42. Kangaroos - Daniel Pratt (Northern Eagles)

43. Hawthorn - Mark Williams (South Fremantle)

44. Geelong - Joshua Hunt (Bendigo Pioneers)

45. West Coast - Trent Carroll (Fremantle)

46. Carlton - Sean O'Keeffe (Murray Bushrangers)

47. Essendon - Jordon Bannister (Calder Cannons)

48. Adelaide - Matthew Smith (Oakleigh Chargers)

49. Collingwood - Shane Wakelin (St.Kilda)

50. Port Adelaide - Domenic Cassisi (East Fremantle)

51. Fremantle - Dion Woods (Perth)

52. Sydney - Amon Buchanan (Geelong Falcons)

53. Adelaide - Hayden Skipworth (Woodville West Torrens)

54. Sydney - Jarrad Sundqvist (Glenelg)

55. Richmond - Chris Newman (Dandenong Stingrays)

56. Western Bulldogs - Daniel Cross (Murray Bushrangers)

57. Richmond - Steven Sziller (St.Kilda)

58. Hawthorn - Nathan Lonie (Dandenong Stingrays)

59. Brisbane Lions - Luke Hammond (Caulfield Grammar/Sandringham Dragons)

60. Kangaroos - Corey Jones (Sturt)

61. Carlton - Callan Beasy (Bendigo Pioneers)

62. Melbourne - Daniel Breese (Eastern Ranges)

63. Essendon - Marc Bullen (Murray Bushrangers)

64. St Kilda - Mark Gale (Fremantle)

65. Collingwood - Pass

66. Fremantle - Scott Thornton (Sandringham Dragons)

67. Adelaide - Graham Johncock (Port Adelaide Magpies)

68. Sydney - Pass

69. Richmond - Pass

70. Western Bulldogs - Wade Skipper (West Perth)

71. Geelong - Daniel Lowther (Geelong)

72. Hawthorn - Pass

73. Melbourne - Ross Funcke (North Ballarat Roosters)

74. Essendon - Michael Davis (Morningside/Sandringham Dragons)

75. St Kilda - Robert Powell (Richmond)

76. Fremantle - Pass

77. Adelaide - Pass

78. Western Bulldogs - Pass

79. Geelong - Hamish Simpson (Geelong)

80. Melbourne - Mitchell Craig (Eastern Ranges)

81. Essendon - Pass

82. St Kilda - Daniel Wulf (St Kilda Supp List)

83. Western Bulldogs - Pass

84. Melbourne - Pass

85. St Kilda - Pass

86. St Kilda - Pass

87. St Kilda - Pass

 

I'd say Thompson is better than two of the names you listed, and probably as good as the others named.

He is a gun

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I'd say Thompson is better than two of the names you listed, and probably as good as the others named.

He is a gun

My point is we have no players from the 2000 Draft on our list. Thompson would of been, but he's not representing the Demons.

I should of put this in the Drafting and Trading Forum. Mod's can you do that please.

 

This was when we were hit by draft penalties

Thompson at pick 16 was great recruiting, better IMO than all players you listed bar Kerr.

Our next picks were 62, 73 and 84. Very rare to get decent AFL players that low in the draft


Scott Thompson is probably top 5 from that year.

What did we do with our second pick from that year?

Thankfully we've drafted well 2003-present IMO.

we better hope we've drafted well since 2003 coz we are relying on those drafts to build our team for the next 5 years.

if the current crop of youngsters fail to produce we won't be seeing on field success for a long long time

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4. Carlton - Luke Livingston (Bendigo Pioneers)

5. West Coast - Andrew McDougall (Perth)

6. Kangaroos - Dylan Smith (Sandringham Dragons)

7. Adelaide - Laurence Angwin (Dandenong Stingrays)

8. Kangaroos - Daniel Motlop (Wanderers/North Adelaide)

9. Richmond - Kayne Pettifer (Murray Bushrangers)

10. Western Bulldogs - Jordon McMahon (Glenelg)

11. Carlton - Trent Sporn (North Adelaide)

These clubs struggled with their picks. The kangaroos and Motlop probably the exception.

 
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Here is 2004, I think we did pretty well in this one: -

1. Richmond - Brett Deledio (Murray Bushrangers)

2. Hawthorn - Jarryd Roughead (Gippsland Power)

3. Western Bulldogs - Ryan Griffen (South Adelaide)

4. Richmond - Richard Tambling (Southern Districts)

5. Hawthorn - Lance Franklin (Perth)

6. Western Bulldogs - Tom Williams (Morningside)

7. Hawthorn - Jordan Lewis (Geelong Falcons)

8. Adelaide - John Meesen (Geelong Falcons)

9. Carlton - Jordan Russell (West Adelaide)

10. Collingwood - Christopher Egan (Murray Bushrangers)

11. Pt Adelaide - Adam Thomson (Sturt)

12. Richmond - Danny Meyer (Glenelg)

13. Melbourne - Matthew Bate (Eastern Ranges)

14. Essendon - Angus Monfries (Sturt)

15. Melbourne - Lynden Dunn (Calder Cannons)

16. Richmond - Adam Pattison (Western Jets)

17. St Kilda - Andrew McQualter (Gippsland Power)

18. Brisbane Lions - Cameron Wood (West Adelaide)

19. Pt Adelaide - Ryan Willits (Northern Knights)

20. Richmond - Dean Polo (Gippsland Power)

21. Hawthorn - Thomas Murphy (Sandringham Dragons)

22. Western Bulldogs - Jesse Wells (Tassie Mariners)

23. Collingwood - Sean Rusling (West Adelaide)

24. Adelaide - Nathan Van Berlo (West Perth)

25. Carlton - Adam Hartlett (West Adelaide)

26. Hawthorn - Matthew Little (Calder Cannons)

27. Brisbane Lions - Patrick Garner (Western Magpies)

28. Adelaide - Chad Gibson (Norwood)

29. West Coast - Matthew Rosa (North Ballarat Rebels)

30. Essendon - Andrew Lee (Tassie Mariners)

31. Sydney - Jarred Moore (Dandenong Stingrays)

32. Geelong - Brent Prismall (Western Jets)

33. St Kilda - Cain Ackland (Port Adelaide)

34. Pt Adelaide - James Ezard (Calder Cannons)

35. Pt Adelaide - Fabian Deluca (Eastern Ranges)

36. Richmond - Luke McGuane (Broadbeach)

37. West Coast - Mark Le Cras (West Perth)

38. Western Bulldogs - Damian McCormack(Dandenong Stingrays)

39. Collingwood - Travis Cloke (Eastern Ranges) father-son rule

40. Adelaide - Ivan Maric (Calder Cannons)

41. Carlton - Luke Blackwell (Swan Districts) father-son rule

42. Kangaroos - Jesse W. Smith (Calder Cannons) father-son rule

43. Melbourne - Michael Newton (Murray Bushrangers)

44. West Coast - Mitch Morton (Claremont) father-son rule

45. Brisbane Lions - Justin Sherman (Clarence)

46. Essendon - Henry Slattery (West Adelaide)

47. Sydney - David Spriggs (Geelong)

48. Geelong - Nathan Ablett (Modewarre) father-son rule

49. St Kilda - Mark McGough (Collingwood)

50. Brisbane Lions - Jayden Attard (Dandenong Stingrays)

51. Pt Adelaide - Benjamin Eckermann (Sturt)

52. Richmond - Dean Limbach (Calder Cannons)

53. Hawthorn - Simon Taylor (Box Hill Hawks)

54. Western Bulldogs - Stephen Tiller (West Adelaide)

55. Collingwood - Adam Iacobucci (Calder Cannons)

56. Adelaide - Chris Knights (Eastern Ranges)

57. West Coast - Bradley Smith (Subiaco)

58. Kangaroos- Bradley Moran (Southport)

59. Fremantle -Benet Copping (Sturt)

60. Essendon - Paul Thomas (Adelaide Rookie)

61. Sydney - Heath James (Sydney)

62. Geelong - Matthew Egan (Geelong VFL)

63. St Kilda - James Gwilt (Noble Park)

64. Brisbane Lions - Luke Forsyth (Dandenong Stingrays)

65. Richmond - Mark Graham (Hawthorn)

66. Collingwood - Pass

67. Fremantle - Toby Stribling (North Adelaide)

68. Kangaroos - Ben Schwarze (Port Melbourne)

69. Fremantle - Daniel Haines (Fremantle)

70. Essendon - Pass

71. St Kilda - Pass

72. Richmond - Pass

73. Carlton - Chris Bryan (Frankston)

74. Kangaroos - Daniel Pratt (Brisbane Lions Rookie)

75. Fremantle - Pass

76. St Kilda - Pass

77. Carlton - Anthony Raso (Dandenong Stingrays)

78. Carlton - Pass


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Our 2003 picks are pretty good I believe after looking at what's on offer: -

1. Western Bulldogs - Adam Cooney (West Adelaide)

2. Carlton - Andrew Walker (Bendigo Pioneers)

3. Melbourne - Colin Sylvia (Bendigo Pioneers)

4. Western Bulldogs - Farren Ray (Peel Thunder)

5. Melbourne - Brock McLean (Calder Cannons)

6. Essendon - Kepler Bradley (West Perth)

7. Geelong - Kane Tenace (Murray Bushrangers)

8. St Kilda - Raphael Clarke (St Mary's)

9. Kangaroos - David Trotter (Calder Cannons)

10. Fremantle - Ryley Dunn (Murray Bushrangers)

11. West Coast - Beau Waters (West Adelaide)

12. Fremantle - Ryan Murphy (Gippsland Power)

13. Essendon - Brent Stanton (Northern Knights)

14. Adelaide - Fergus Watts (Sandringham Dragons)

15. Port Adelaide - Troy Chaplin (North Ballarat Rebels)

16. Sydney - Joshua Willoughby (Glenelg)

17. Collingwood - William Morrison (Tasmania)

18. Brisbane - Llane Spaanderman (East Perth)

19. Fremantle - David Mundy (Murray Bushrangers)

20. West Coast - Samuel Butler (Central Districts)

21. Richmond - Alex Gilmour (Tassie Mariners)

22. Geelong - Cameron Thurley (Tasmania)

23. Brisbane - Matthew Moody (South Fremantle)

24. Kangaroos - Chad Jones (Claremont)

25. Hawthorn - Harry Miller (Port Adelaide Magpies)

26. West Coast - Daniel McConnell (Eastern Ranges)

27. Fremantle - Adam Campbell (North Ballarat Rebels)

28. Essendon - Jay Nash (Central District)

29. Sydney - Tim Schmidt (West Adelaide)

30. Port Adelaide - Bradley Symes (Central District)

31. Adelaide - Joshua Krueger (Glenelg)

32. Collingwood - Brayden Shaw (Northern Knights) father-son rule

33. Brisbane - Jed Adcock (North Ballarat Rebels)

34. Port Adelaide - Luke Peel (Sandringham Dragons)

35. Collingwood - Brent Hall (South Fremantle)

36. Melbourne - Christopher Johnson (East Fremantle) father-son rule

37. Richmond - Tom Roach (Oakleigh Chargers) father-son rule

38. Geelong - Mark Blake (Geelong Falcons) father-son rule

39. Port Adelaide - Robert Forster-Knight (Essendon)

40. Kangaroos - Edward Sansbury (Central District)

41. Hawthorn - Zac Dawson (Calder Cannons)

42. Geelong - Matthew Spencer (Swan Districts)

43. Fremantle - Brett Peake (East Fremantle) father-son rule

44. Essendon - Ricky Dyson (Northern Knights)

45. Sydney - Amon Buchanan (Sydney)

46. Port Adelaide - Michael Pettigrew (West Perth)

47. Sydney - Andrew Ericksen (Sandringham Dragons)

48. Collingwood - Heath Shaw (Northern Knights) father-son rule

49. Brisbane - Thomas Logan (Waratah)

50. Western Bulldogs - Iszac Thompson (Woodville-West Torrens)

51. Hawthorn - Matthew Ball (Hawthorn rookie)

52. Melbourne - Pass

53. Richmond - Daniel Jackson (Oakleigh Chargers)

54. Geelong - Pass

55. St Kilda - Samuel Fisher (West Adelaide)

56. Kangaroos - Brent Le Cras (West Perth)

57. Carlton - Ricky Mott (Fremantle Rookie)

58. Adelaide - Ben Hudson (Werribee)

59. Sydney - Matthew Davis (North Adelaide)

60. Collingwood - Julian Rowe (Oakleigh Chargers)

61. Brisbane - Michael Rischitelli (Western Jets)

62. Western Bulldogs - Pass

63. Carlton - Glen Bowyer (Hawthorn)

64. Richmond - Shane Morrison (Brisbane Lions)

65. St Kilda - Craig Callaghan (St Kilda)

66. Kangaroos - Pass

67. Adelaide - Pass

68. Brisbane - Pass

69. Carlton - Jordon Bannister (Essendon)

70. Richmond - Brent Hartigan (Calder Cannons)

71. St Kilda - Pass

72. Carlton - Adrian DeLuca (Port Melbourne)

73. Richmond - Shane Tuck (West Adelaide)

74. St Kilda - Pass

75. Carlton - Stephen Kenna (Box Hill Hawks)

76. Richmond - Andrew Raines (Southport)

77. St Kilda - Pass

78. Carlton - Pass

79. Richmond - Simon Fletcher (Carlton)

80. Carlton - Pass

81. Richmond - Kyle Archibald (Belconnen)

82. Richmond - Pass

83. Richmond - Pass

We were banned from even trading into the second and third rounds of the 2000 Draft, as well as the first round of the 1999 Draft, in which we still managed to pick up Green, Whelan, Wheatley and Bruce. Had Thompson stuck around, we'd be looking at a gun and probably our next captain. Obviously we picked up diddly after the third round, but you're not always going to find a Bruce in the 60s.

Don't stress.

We lost our second round (pick 32) and third round (pick 48) selections in the 2000 draft. This is ironic given those who were involved in the salary cap rorts between 1995-1998 which led to the penalties being imposed.

Scott Thompson looks pretty good at 16 - very few taken ahead of him have done better. No fault of Craig Cameron that he did his best work for the Crows.

Had we gone to the draft table with our picks intact we would have taken Ryan Lonie at pick 32 and Shane Wakelin at 48.

No great loss in hindsight.

Can't see that we picked terribly with Thompson.

Had Thompson stuck around, we'd be looking at a gun and probably our next captain.

Yeah, that was a good get.

Obviously we picked up diddly after the third round, but you're not always going to find a Bruce in the 60s.

I agree - not much after the guys we picked.


We were banned from even trading into the second and third rounds of the 2000 Draft, as well as the first round of the 1999 Draft, in which we still managed to pick up Green, Whelan, Wheatley and Bruce.

We would have taken Robert Murphy with our first round pick in 1999 had we gone to the table without penalties. Mind you there would have been knock on effects had we gone with our original picks so we would not have got all of the others you mention.

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Can't see that we picked terribly with Thompson.

Yeah, that was a good get.

I agree - not much after the guys we picked.

Never said we picked terribly with Thompson, he was a good get. All I've said in reference to the 2000 draft is "what a waste" (which is good for debate purposes).

Here's another topic for conversation, is Cameron Schwab responsible in some way for the draft penalties imposed in the 1999 and 2000 National Drafts?

Never said we picked terribly with Thompson, he was a good get. All I've said in reference to the 2000 draft is "what a waste" (which is good for debate purposes).

Pick #16 was a good get, the others were fair enough given the players taken after them (we didn't waste our picks).

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Pick #16 was a good get, the others were fair enough given the players taken after them (we didn't waste our picks).

Graham Johncock slipped through the fingers. But it must be difficult for the recruiters in their defence...

It gets worse.

Totally overlooked in the 2000 National draft and slipping through to that year's rookie draft were Dean Cox, Dean Brogan, Stephen Milne, Shane Tuck, Michael Doughty, Robert Haddrill David Johnson and Casey Green.


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It gets worse.

Totally overlooked in the 2000 National draft and slipping through to that year's rookie draft were Dean Cox, Dean Brogan, Stephen Milne, Shane Tuck, Michael Doughty, Robert Haddrill David Johnson and Casey Green.

Dean Cox overlooked? Sheesh! :o

Here's another topic for conversation, is Cameron Schwab responsible in some way for the draft penalties imposed in the 1999 and 2000 National Drafts?

Gutnick definitely did a public hatchet job on him, my understanding though is that the overpayments were made before Schwabs time, I'm happy to be corrected though, I'm not 100% certain.

Looking at our list at the moment, its clear that we have a dearth of quality players aged around 26, which is what guys drafted in 2000 would be now, so draft penalties do have quite a long term impact on clubs. If we had picked up 1 or 2 players in those 2nd/3rd round picks (like a Newman at 55 or a Cross at 56) we'd be stronger for it. Next year we'll have our old guys at 28/29 (Bruce,Green) and then it goes back to the Millers,Rivers and McLeans almost as our next tier of experience

 
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Here's the 2002 AFL National Draft:-

1. St Kilda - Brendon Goddard (Gippsland Power)

2. Kangaroos - Daniel Wells (Peel Thunder)

3. Brisbane - Jared Brennan (Southern Districts)

4. Western Bulldogs - Timothy Walsh (Northern Knights)

5. Sydney - Jarrad McVeigh (NSW/ACT Rams)

6. Port Adelaide - Steven Salopek (Dandenong Stingrays)

7. Geelong - Andrew Mackie (Glenelg)

8. Hawthorn - Luke Brennan (North Ballarat Rebels)

9. Kangaroos - Hamish McIntosh (Murray Bushrangers)

10. Essendon - Jason Laycock (Tassie Mariners)

11. Essendon - Jason Winderlich (Gippsland Power)

12. Richmond - Jay Schulz (Woodville-West Torrens)

13. Fremantle - Byron Schammer (West Adelaide)

14. Melbourne - Daniel Bell (Glenelg)

15. Melbourne - Nicholas Smith (Norwood)

16. Port Adelaide - Stephen Gilham (Oakleigh Chargers)

17. Western Bulldogs - Cameron Faulkner (Central District)

18. Kangaroos - Kris Shore (Eastern Ranges)

19. Brisbane - Troy Selwood (Bendigo Pioneers)

20. Western Bulldogs - William Minson (Norwood)

21. Collingwood - Bowman Nixon (Calder Cannons)

22. St Kilda - Matthew Ferguson (Gippsland Power)

23. Geelong - Tom Lonergan (Calder Cannons)

24. West Coast - Paul Johnson (Dandenong Stingrays)

25. Kangaroos - Callum Urch (Western Jets)

26. Melbourne - Jared Rivers (North Adelaide)

27. Essendon - Darren Walsh (Sandringham Dragons)

28. Essendon - Tristan Cartledge (North Ballarat Rebels)

29. Collingwood - Luke Shackleton (Tassie Mariners)

30. Brisbane - Daniel Merrett (Southport)

31. Kangaroos - Joel Perry (Eastern Ranges)

32. Adelaide - Luke Jericho (West Adelaide)

33. Western Bulldogs - Brad Murphy (Calder Cannons)

34. Sydney - Sean Dempster (Gippsland Power) father-son rule

35. Western Bulldogs - Scott Bassett (Port Adelaide)

36. Geelong - Tim Callan (Geelong Falcons) father-son rule

37. West Coast - Brent Staker (NSW/ACT Rams)

38. Kangaroos - Blake Grima (Eastern Ranges)

39. Melbourne - Gary Moorcroft (Essendon)

40. Essendon - Jobe Watson (Sandringham Dragons) father-son rule

41. Richmond - Tim Fleming (Carlton)

42. Port Adelaide - Brett Ebert (Port Adelaide Magpies) father-son rule

43. Collingwood - Cameron Cloke (Eastern Ranges) father-son rule

44. Brisbane - Anthony Corrie (Nightcliff)

45. Carlton - Kade Simpson (Eastern Ranges)

46. St Kilda - Leigh Fisher (Sandringham Dragons)

47. Richmond - Billy Nicholls (Hawthorn)

48. Fremantle - Greg Edgcumbe (Eastern Ranges)

49. Western Bulldogs - Cameron Wight (Calder Cannons)

50. Sydney - Josh Thewlis (Bendigo Pioneers)

51. Hawthorn - Tim Boyle (Geelong Falcons)

52. Geelong - Pass

53 West Coast - Adam Selwood (Bendigo Pioneers)

54. Melbourne - Cameron Hunter (Calder Cannons)

55. Fremantle - Ryan Crowley (Calder Cannons)

56. Adelaide - Robert Shirley (Woodville-West Torrens)

57. Port Adelaide - Wade Champion (West Adelaide)

58. Collingwood - David King (Glenelg)

59. Brisbane - Pass

60. Carlton - Cameron Croad (Oakleigh Chargers)

61. St Kilda - Pass

62. Richmond - Daniel Sipthorp (Calder Cannons)

63. Fremantle - Brett Doswell (NSW/ACT Rams)

64. Sydney - Nick Malceski (Eastern Ranges)

65. Hawthorn - Lochlan Veale (Geelong Falcons)

66. Melbourne - Ryan Ferguson (Frankston)

67. Essendon - Steven Alessio (Essendon)

68. Adelaide - James Begley (St Kilda)

69. Port Adelaide - Pass

70. Collingwood - Matthew Lokan (Port Adelaide Magpies)

71. Brisbane - Pass

72. Carlton - Bradley Fisher (Eastern Ranges)

73. St Kilda - Pass

74. Richmond - Pass

75. Fremantle - Pass

76. Sydney - Pass

77. Adelaide - Pass

78. Brisbane - Pass

79. Carlton - Karl Norman (Wangaratta Rovers)

80. St Kilda - Pass

81. Richmond - Pass

82. Fremantle - Pass

83. Sydney - Pass

84. Carlton - Michael Martyn (Kangaroos)

85. St Kilda - Pass

86. Richmond - Pass

87. Fremantle - Pass

88. St Kilda - Pass


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