would rather see a player going and getting his own footy and giving it up a few times that an outside runner who gets cheap possessions (via blokes like jones) that can deliver the ball without pressure and rack up a nice clean possession count.

also the amount of times jones is under the pack forcing a contest and causing a stop play without actually winning possession is incredible. watch this next week. without him the opposition would win even more of the footy.

It was glaring against the Saints we dont have enough inside winners and haven't for years.

We once had a brownlow medalist which played the same style of football as Jones and got crucified for it.

We once had a brownlow medalist which played the same style of football as Jones and got crucified for it.

brian wilson?

brian wilson?

Woewodin! It doesn't matter what footballers we have at the club MFC will mismanage them and ruin there careers with poor development. We have had good young footballers at the club which are flourishing at other clubs now and fark it annoys me to see the talent we have thrown away yet keep mediocre players

Whilst i like the way both Jones and McLean go about it, i think it's funny that everyone jumps up

and down about the fact that Jones gets caught with the footy to often. How many times has McLean

been run down and caught recently? To many times for mine.

Jones and Mclean will look heaps better with cousins in the team!

Woewodin! It doesn't matter what footballers we have at the club MFC will mismanage them and ruin there careers with poor development. We have had good young footballers at the club which are flourishing at other clubs and fark it annoys me to see the talent we have thrown away yet keep mediocre players

you're a glass half empty kind of guy aren't you mick? Try to be positive. We are 10 weeks into a season where we are playing heaps of kids with new coaching staff. Things will improve.

The Woewodin decision turned out to be a sound one in hindsight.

you're a glass half empty kind of guy aren't you mick? Try to be positive. We are 10 weeks into a season where we are playing heaps of kids with new coaching staff. Things will improve.

The Woewodin decision turned out to be a sound one in hindsight.

Yes and no. Prob wouldnt have ever had the same impact as the brownlow year, then again daniel bell is never going to reach the heights woey did.

we really can't keep carrying McLean, Jones, Moloney and Valenti on our list when they are all the same type of player, and when they all require a top quality midfield around them to perform at their best.

Interestingly, Valenti has the best footy brain of that lot. I'll watch his development with interest.

Jones is the type of player that any good midfield could use. The problem is, that we don't have a good midfield.

Cameron Ling is slow, but is a premiership midfielder. Brett Kirk's disposal is ordinary, but he is a premiership midfielder.

What separates us from the likes of Geelong and Sydney (besides the fact that we're terrible and they're not), is that they have Goodes, and they have Ablett and amongst all that midfield class there are the hard-working, not terribly quick, not terribly gifted footballers who earn their keep because their bread and butter is to get clearances and be on the bottom of packs. They are not there because they can break the lines with pace, or hit a target 76 meters out on their non-preferred foot.

So in a way, Jones is a victim of the crap he is surrounded with (and so are most of our kids), but if you look at it from a different point of view, we really can't keep carrying McLean, Jones, Moloney and Valenti on our list when they are all the same type of player, and when they all require a top quality midfield around them to perform at their best. Breaking it down, you keep McLean because of the 4 mentioned he is the best 'outsider' of the lot, meaning his disposal is very good most of the time. Of the rest, Jones stands out because he is a proven clearance winner, but unless he can reinvent another dimension and become a goal-kicking midfielder, or alternatively improve his disposal dramatically, he may just become dispensable, or worse, a depth player. Fortunately, I think he is capable of taking his game to another level and become an invaluable asset to our midfield, especially if one day he finds himself surrounded by a classy midfield.

Absolutely SPOT ON!!

Absolutely SPOT ON!!

Jones should be appointed captain next year.

Jones should be appointed captain next year.

I don't quite know about that, but i think given 2 years he'll be in the leadership group.

I've had a couple of different thoughts about Jones this year, a few time he has reminded me of another bald player that wears the blue and white hoops. Chapman.

Against the Lions he kicked 4 goals, and he kicked 2 against the Tassie Hawks, while i'm not suggesting we play him as a permanant forward i think there could be potential for him be rotated between midfield and half forward line because one things i've noticed about him is that he loves a goal.

Ultimately, like Jaded said, he'll be a hard working aggresive midfielder and for him to be as good as he can be he's got to have players in the ilk of Ablett, Bartel, Judd etc. to shovel the ball out to.