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Was he really Voldemort's manager too?
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So the answer to the question is that we tanked in those years or we didn't tank in those years?
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We understand the point you're trying to make about who constitutes the body which will ultimately decide the AFL's position on whether to lay charges but WJ makes an entirely different point in connection to the rule against tanking.That is, Melbourne's understanding of what was meritorious was based on advice given in and prior to 2009 by the AFL's CEO. Further, as Redleg pointed out, on any prosecution of a breach of the rule, the AFL would be held to accept that interpretation. One would expect the Commissioners to have legal advice to that effect and act accordingly on that advice and not on anyone's personal views as to what constitutes tanking.
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The AFL will only act if there is a recommendation from the CEO to lay charges. If he does so, then Mike Fitzpatrick has a problem since he heads the commission and, to date, his former club Carlton which would, if it has reached that stage, also be open to a charge. Questions might be asked as to why he hasn't excused himself and why the Blues haven't been investigated. This scenario could lead to a situation where the AFL has a lame duck chairman and a lame duck CEO. Oh dear!
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Try reading AFL Regulation 19 (A5) and then read the article quoted by WJ. All of those things which Vlad approved in the article are not included in the AFL's definition of tanking. The rest remains the AFL's interpretation of the law on the matter.
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What questions are you going to ask at the AGM?
rumpole replied to hoopla's topic in Melbourne Demons
My question is whether the club has made provision in next year's budget for income derived from the proceeds of defamation actions against members of the media and other individuals and, if so, how much is it expecting to receive (to the nearest $100k)? -
If you weren't so full of yourself and read the relevant parts of the thread you'd learn that WJ wasn't derailing the thread but they he mentioned you in response to another poster. You embarrass yourself every time you appear on Land.
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You have proof of what you're alleging? You mean we should get rid of the blokes who turned the club that stood for nothing and was $5m in debt into a club that now has an excess of assets over liabilities to the tune of $7m? Who would you replace them with? Any ideas?
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To bring the game into disrepute means there has to be a very public act committed by people that damages the game's reputation. If people have private discussions within club which aren't acted upon then it can hardly be said that the game has been brought into disrepute. If Bailey is not guilty of anything (and I don't believe that he is) them the disrepute claim must fail as must the draft tampering claim. If the case against Bailey rises or falls because of three minutes at the end of the Jordan McMahon, then where would the case be had McMahon missed the shot after the siren? The AFL has no case. This farce needs to be put to an end ASAP.
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mjt - as a sh!t stirrer, I mark you an E- but if you hang around long enough you might improve your ranking a little because some of the best of them hang around here pretending they have the club's interests at heart. In short, you're way out of your depth.
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I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a "normal parking inspector"!
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The knee stood up in 2012. It was the heart that wasn't there.
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That's the sort of interpretation that would make it a dead set certainty for the whole thing to end up in court. And you're assuming that Connolly said anything that could be taken to be a serious directive.
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... but basically what we've all assumed to be the case from the time the information was first leaked to Caroline Wilson. The question is what weight one puts on the word of disgruntled ex-employees who left the club on bad terms. If one of them is who I think he is, then he was involved in plenty of spats even before he left and his credibility will be in tatters before the Fink finishes up with him.
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I dealt with it ... and if you have any problem with it then it's yours.
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That stupid comment sums up in many ways why the club is in its current predicament.The sacking of Bailey was carried out by the Board and not by the CEO and therefore the question as to whether Brian Cook could have handled it better is moot. However, there have always been snipers around the club who take every opportunity to take aim at Cameron Schwab in an effort to bring him down. Many people have pointed to McLean's appearance on Foxtel that night as having been set up by those who wanted to prevent the club from extending his contract. Indeed, that programme was barely over when snide comments about him were posted on this site.* Those with vendettas against individuals involved at the club would be well advised to shut their traps. You, mjt are just stupid.
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So these blokes spent 5 months while being paid good coin investigating a club's activities. Reckon they might look really smart if they spent that time and came up with nothing. If they have nothing more than what was written about in the media as their evidence, then the MFC doesn't need a smart operator like Finkelstein to defend it. A first year articled clerk will do.
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What were the crowds like today. They were abysmal yesterday. Come on Taswegians - turn up if you want local test matches!
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It's that time of year again when everybody is handing out annual awards. I think it's fair to say, based on the Demonland Player of the Year voting that Nathan Jones is our Demonland Man of the Year but what about other awards? My contribution is for Best Comedy Piece in the Media - Silly secrets from the 'vault'. Any others?
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I think the penny dropped in the second half of the season for Colin and I trust that he realises that now that he's nearing the end of career, he needs to work damn hard to ensure that he's left his legacy in the game. Jared Rivers was a great servant in his time at the club and I hope that he qualifies for life membership. However, I think he had done his dash at Melbourne. As a tall in defence, there was a log jam in place waiting to take his space. We know their names - Rivers would also struggle to become a forward with our new recruits. He made the right move seeking greener pastures elsewhere.
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Agreed. I don't need to read an article about something or other and have to put up with the claim that a particular club is supposed to have forfeited games or, when its about a Kangaroos player for it to mention that he plays for "cash strapped North Melbourne" or in the case of Dane Swan that he's been "associated with drinking and drug use". As long as Wilson does this however, every time she gets mentioned on Demonland we should add an aside that it's been alleged that she's a pretty arrogant and average human being who claimed to have bonked an international golfer in her younger days". Anyway, I've digressed. Congratulations to Emma Quayle - you write beautifully and I enjoy your work.
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THE WILSON FILE - the arrogance at the heart of the innuendo
rumpole replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
She's all over the shop now. Gone is this mysterious vault with its sinister shadowy figures plotting the end of the world with secret handshakes. It's back now to a player who wouldn't even call it tanking but rather "experimenting" which is exactly what Cameron Schwab said in her August 2009 article here ‘‘Our club’s very much about list management and experimentation with the team. It has been for much of the season but suddenly it’s become tanking." I'm really starting to smell the stench of some rats. Does anyone think a genius like Brock would remember these words almost exactly three years later? I wonder if he was worded up and I wonder why the On the Couch panel looked so flummoxed at his words when the show's promo indicated that the MFC was going to get a spray from them during the program? -
THE WILSON FILE - the arrogance at the heart of the innuendo
rumpole replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Thank you for asking. She's on life support. -
THE WILSON FILE - the arrogance at the heart of the innuendo
rumpole replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Darker reaches of the Internet as opposed to the darker reaches of the mainstream media like the Age where being feral is de rigeur if you happen to be the chief football writer and you have the Melbourne Football Club in your sights. Feral indeed!! -
THE WILSON FILE - the arrogance at the heart of the innuendo
rumpole replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
This post demonstrates everything that's frustrating about this sordid episode. The club is, despite what the media is saying, not guilty of anything. It may or may not be found guilty in the future of something it may or may not be charged with but for the time being the presumption of innocence applies. And for your information, in the event that some court, tribunal or other body hears charges and makes a finding that the "weight of evidence is not sufficient to prove tanking" then it will be a finding of "not guilty". This I advise. My brief fee is £250. Thank you.