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I thought he took one up the ground in the first half, and then the one drifting into the pack in the fwd line. I'm not convinced about him as a pure forward still. Back up ruck and fwd is where I like him when needed.

I don't disagree with you. I am firmly in the Tmac camp. I also think Weid is more a replacement for Jackson as a second ruck, and Brown if needed. But I recall at least two strong marks he took tonight so credit where it is due. I was worried about his intensity (ball watches a bit for mine) but thought it improved through the match.

Took some tonight.

I still think Salem was meant to get it last year. He will be missed on the big occasion tonight.

No heart in GWS. Pretty poor effort.

Or Max. That is where my first thoughts went to as well. A ruckman in doubt.

Or like in game 1 vs the Dogs when Hunter got his first high/ducking free. I'm not into booing, but really laughed at how the crowd reacted.

Consistency will enable acceptance. No excuses. Players infringe, umpires adjudicate. If they want to make wholesale change then they need to get their ducks in row before they start. Not excuses as to why some were or were not paid. Brief the umpires and be consistent in the application. Otherwise there will be contention rather than success.

So long as it is applied consistently.

Scott is an absolute cloth eared Muppet. He never thinks he is wrong - which is dangerous arrogance. This will not be last thing he stuffs up, and let's hope he doesn't leave the game in as bad a state as he left North! On the dissent rule, if they want to go hard then fine. But it needs to be applied CONSISTENTLY and not just when they feel like it.

The way some umpires bounce the ball these days he could have been in a forward pocket for a centre bounce!

I agree the rule is definitely needed. Just needs to be refined and applied with more consistency. (The Geelong game will be a good case study today). I also think overt verbal abuse of an umpire should be met with a fine. Touching an umpire an immediate suspension. I remember the first game of rugby union I played. I made some infringement in a maul and I asked the ref what the decision was for. Penalised and marched 10 immediately. Was told by my team mates to shut up in no uncertain terms. While that gets to the extreme end it is closer to the direction we need to get to for umpire respect.

I posted this in the Casey thread but is probably more suited to this one. Sorry if some of the context is lost. And I also agree that the abuse rule needs to remain, but refined and more consistency. Totally agree. There is virtually no transparency on umpire reviews of performance and by that I also mean a lack of media scrutiny. I know why they stopped bagging umpires on TV, but it has gone too far in that there now seems to be no accountability. Constructive discussion with an umpires rep explaining decisions should be a weekly occurrence with a view to improving umpiring. When the same umpires keeping getting shown up (like some of Stevic's strange involvements) then a better feedback loop can begin. Need to talk more openly publicly to help ease supporter frustration as poor decisions seem to generally go ignored after the event. We should also be discussing and recognising good performances.

Totally agree. There is virtually no transparency on umpire reviews of performance and by that I also mean a lack of media scrutiny. I know why they stopped bagging umpires on TV, but it has gone too far in that there now seems to be no accountability. Constructive discussion with an umpires rep explaining decisions should be a weekly occurrence with a view to improving umpiring. When the same umpires keeping getting shown up (like some of Stevic's strange involvements) then a better feedback loop can begin. Need to talk more openly publicly to help ease supporter frustration as poor decisions seem to generally go ignored after the event. We should also be discussing and recognising good performances.

I thought he marked it, just before the Petty spoil which I don't think he infringed with. It was close but I thought he clunked the mark just before the spoil. That is the only way I vould justify it to my kids on the night.

Isn't Stevic the umpire we had problems with last year?

Well this thread shrunk quickly since the hour ago I was here. Obviously some very busy mods today 😁. Looking forward to a good game tonight to round a family reunion BBQ. Hoping for the chance to be loud in the suburbs of Brisbane. Go us!!

I loved seeing Bernie Vince in a supporters jumper in the rooms after the GF.

The poppy yoke is tasteful and respectful. It is far from a nonsense jumper and I appreciate it, and its sentiments.

I won't bag you but I don't agree. Thought it was strange at the start, but he wanted to come to us and he seemed to me give his all for us, accepting that age caught up with him. I thought he was all in with us and love hearing in the media now.

Damn, looks like I have to work on my use of H's

Where did we put that lid again??

Is that a fuscia coloured dress?

Brown has played with desire in the seniors and I think you are underselling him. A run back with Casey would expect the main priority was don't get injured. I want to see Weid succeed too but to say they are close is a misnomer. If Weid gets more exposure it's not at the expense of a fit Brown. Weid needs to earn his place, and two good games in a row would be a good start. Too often he comes in with a flurry and then does nothing for the next few games.

Has Ellison played back previously, I only remember him last year as a promising forward. If he has, has he shown much?