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Angry and devastated at the same time. Even worse when I saw the AFL headline. Never mind showing a picture of the Saints upset to happy, they have to pick on Toumpas again. Very original.

He had a superb game and has been building to it for a month. He's not a Watts/Morton who needs to be in form to contribute, because he goes in as hard as anyone.

Very encouraging, how Maxy went today, but one swallow doesn't make a summer. If he keeps on chipping away in the VFL and gets some form behind him then maybe, but Stewart is looking very comfortable at AFL level already.

My bro and I agreed when he ran out for his 100th in that belting against Port that he was the worst 100 gamer ever. The turnaround has been stunning.

If you're after a comparison, how about our own James McDonald? From the small amount that I've seen, he seems to share that intangible intelligence and attitude that took Junior the extra mile.

With Patton still pencilled a spot at GWS, how about James Stewart as that resting ruck option? 21 years old, 198cm, can kick a goal.

And Port, and Collingwood...

Good team, looks balanced. Surprised Fitzy comes out considering Garland is gone, but we can get away with two KPD on Roo and Bruce. Hopefully Michie or Riley starts as sub. Get some responsibility on the younger guys' shoulders and see how hungry they are to make an impression.

Would be a good idea to watch them both before you say that. Both butcher the ball from defence sure, but Prince 420 actually runs with it and breaks lines when he's not show boating in front of his old team mates/decides to front up. As you can see, I'm no Lumumba fan; but he's much better than Terlich. And I don't even mind Terlich that much.

Riewoldt will make absolute mince meat out of Dunn or Fitzpatrick if they tried to follow him around. Roo is the perfect match up for McDonald, roaming forward who can be forced wide. He's too good a mark to force a regular spoil out of, unlike a Jeremy Cameron, but TMac will need to get him in the wrong spots.

Garlo's one of my favourites, but were St Kilda playing the resting ruck him being out wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. This is now the third week in a row that clubs who play two rucks opt to go for one against us, and finally we have reacted (forcibly) by taking a tall out of our defence. McDonald on Roo is ideal, and hopefully Dunn can do a job on the in-form Bruce on his 150th. Hoping Vince goes head to head with Armo, old fashioned type of thing rather than a tag. I wouldn't mind Viney following Steven around though, but would also like our mids to play their own game rather than negate a team we need to beat. Hogan needs a big one, and I wonder whether we might tell him that and then give him a double rest against Geelong with the bye coming up.

What a load of [censored]. Who needs enemies when we have supporters like you?

Our players never tend to return on time. There's clearly incompetence on some level - whether that's performance management, communication or otherwise remains to be seen. Our injury list has been fairly average though tbf, though that may be because our true a-graders have so far remained fit.

Watch Gawn have a poor game next week and have this poll flipped on its head. Reminds me of when Matt Jones and Dean Terlich were great pick ups, even better than Dan Nicholson who was a weapon off half back. One game does not a player make. Jamar has played 150 games and has made AA and people are saying 'he can't ruck' - Good Lord.

Our own coach played over 350 games.

Jamar. Not shocked he's 'not interested', considering the fact that he started the season well but has been dropped to try out other guys. I get that it was a necessary evil to do it, but people should show some respect and understand that he's fought hard for many years and a lack of motivation in the twos is simply a natural part of Roos' decision to drop him. He cold be getting 60 hit outs a game at Casey, and it wouldn't change the fact that he isn't getting a game until Gawn and Spencer have had their four weeks. Spencer IMO is a dud, but I'd keep him on the list as insurance. Gawn I have always said there is something there, and Monday was good. I don't think he was any more productive than Jamar, because his tapwork is great but he tries too much and needs to worry about getting it down our players' throats when its there and making ground when it isn't. He's young though, he'll learn. If I want to win a game tomorrow however, then I pick Jamar.

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The Oxley thing I agree on, but the players gave up the goose in the fourth quarter. We had a really good chance to get a few on the board and keep the heat on, but decided not to. Not much Roos can do there.

Good: Watts. Ran hard all day, did plenty of good things, kicked a goal, there at every stoppage. Toumpas. Continued to present, goes when its his turn. 21 touches and 4 tackles is a good return from a young player. Matt Jones. Willed himself everywhere and always made a contest despite Collingwood's chip chip chip game style. Bad: Hogan. Frost did to him what TMac usually does to players. I love his no-[censored] attitude, but he didn't lead hard enough and any kicks his way were picked off. McDonald. Beaten comprehensively all day. Dunn. What's the point when his kicking is poor? Play him at FB, or not at all. The rest goes without saying, just wanted to get in on what other people were blind to. Especially Watts - I cannot believe that any rational football watcher thought he was 'indifferent!'. EDIT: Appears that this is a bumped thread. Still miffed by the lack of praise coming Jack's way.

Imagine those guys at Hogan's feet! Gee whiz. Good to see they all look happy.

Salem is listed as 2 weeks, so should be straight in after the bye. If we lose on Monday, then I'd like to see ANB get a gig against St Kilda. If we win, someone is going to be unlucky to make way for Tyson.

What is it with some of these small forwards? Charlie Cameron seems to be unwilling to kick a goal unless its spectacular today, and last night Michael Walters was selling candy when they were 10 goals down. Its such a backwards stereotype, and yet a lot of these guys fill it. Just play progressive footy.

I'm not saying there is, but Jamar is clearly our best ruckman and it would be retrograde to have him in the reserves or sack him to give a very unlikely prospect a chance to play VFL.

I will feel sick if we force Jamar into retirement. Even the D-League is an insult for a modern champion of the club (granted, the criteria isn't as high as it once was). I fully expect him to return to the side in a week or two should Gawn not perform anyway, but demote or sack him for Max [censored] King? Russian has every reason to be miffed, considering the fact that he was dropped for an inferior player despite playing well. The fact that he's not playing well in the VFL is no good, but he's hardly taking his complaints public. If King is a half-decent player he will stand up and perform? Here's a hint - he was a rookie selection for a reason and nothing he has done so far contravenes the fact that he will be delisted soon.

I enjoy Eddie commentating Carlton games. He knows their history, and wants them to be strong and proud so he can hate them again. Not the new-age schaudenfreude, over-grown school boy rival fan that you see everywhere.