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Jefferson didn't do enough at Casey on the weekend. He's tracking better than before, but he needs to put up numbers consistently. Miserable rainy day though, in fairness. We were always going to have bad days with the squad as it is. There's not a single player in the reserves who will come in and 'fix' us. No use throwing the baby out with the bath water. Plenty to criticise Goodwin about, but there's been plenty of change this season.

The season is too close for Goody to be too adventurous, I imagine. The team would benefit most from: Out: Bowey, Billings, Sparrow, In: Howes, Gawn, K.Brown With Tholstrup moving to sub after a very poor game. A reprieve for Tholstrup and Bowey to sub if Salem is injured. I expect we'll go for: Out: Billings, AMW/Salem* In: Gawn, K.Brown

Pretty well belted across the park. Have to expect down weeks when you run a team this young and with so many holes, but dispiriting to see the effort in the first q just wasn't there. Need to see way more from a few regular players when their teammates are so young - Sparrow, Chandler, Bowey the main culprits. The gamble to run an extra KPF as ruck makes sense, given how poor or underdone the alternatives are, but the list management team has stuffed us by not having a 2nd ruck on the list. Look how good JVR has become up forward. He should be rucking 15 minutes a game maximum so we don't lose him up there.

Sorry, did you not see Reid fending off Petracca and Oliver? Brown has some courage and tackled Larkey but this would be a bloodbath. He's tiny.

All eyes on Casey. 3 goals + or 8+ marks and Jefferson surely comes in. Petty let us down big time in front of goals, and whilst he's finding a small amount of form, he's still not playing well. No interest in seeing Bowey back without a run at Casey. He has been fumbly, poor and somehow undroppable. Out: Petty, Tomlinson (unlucky but not sure we need 4 talls for West Coast) In: Jefferson, Salem if fit or Brown for a full game and McAdam to sub.

Well that hurt. I'm not as bullish on some of the youth as others are but I thought AMW showed some courage and dare. Sad that we played as well as this team realistically can and couldn't hold on. Petty and Langdon really let us down in front of goal. Had it on their boot.

Technically. But it doesn't actually make stack up when you look at the quality of player. Windsor, McVee and Roo are the three that look really good. Howes has looked solid at times, but now been dropped twice (not that this means much given who picks the team). Turner has shown the ability to kick goals but he has a lot to do to become an AFL level player long term. AMW is an unknown. Taj and Kynan too late-pick kids who could be okay. Tholstrup has been bright in two first quarters and then faded fast. Found some real form at Casey recently though. AMW we will see. There might be a place in the team for many of these guys going forward, but they don't strike me as absolute elite talents aside from the first three who could get there. They could be ANB or they could be Stretch, to give a recent example of two late picks.

Max must have missed Oliver trying to give away a 50 with 5 minutes to go. In all seriousness, they're just trying to keep him well and nurse him through. Unclear whether that is okay or not.

Yes, the extent of the injuries were not known until he was examined. Now why didn't the medicos examine him? Or look at his reaction? Or look at the footage? AFL doctors have form here. See Port and the Dogs just recently with Allir and Liberatore.

Leave off on Moore, by the way. There aren't many fairer players in the game. Just look at how he deals with Maynard whenever that d/h loses his head on field. If you think Moore is at fault, then you have to hate Brad Miller too given what happened to Tom Lonergan.

Simon and Kate should be fronting up to explain this, but they'll hide as per. I'm eternally grateful to Goodwin for the flag, but our club is not in good hands with him running things.

Theoretically anyway. Team sycophants, more like. I really thought we were better than the Port and Dogs doctors who sent clearly concussed players back on. Turns out we aren't.

This football club really disgusts me. It was clear as day he had an internal injury and I said it at the time, as did many of us. We need new leadership on all lines.

FB: Howes May McVee HB: Bowey McDonald Salem C: Langdon Viney Windsor HF: ANB Fritsch Tholstrup FF: Laurie van Rooyen Fullarton R: Gawn Oliver Rivers I/C: Woewodin, Tomlinson, Sestan, McAdam Sub: Turner Those italicised should be on notice for playing totally within themselves since the bye. Petracca out maybe saves Sparrow, but I just can't put up with the lack of effort from the likes of him, Chandler and Petty every week. It does feel a bit silly throwing in Sestan, Fullarton and Tholstrup but there also isn't much choice unless we want to keep rewarding mediocrity.

This is why I didn't go today. I knew I wouldn't be able to keep it together when I heard what that rabble said once Maynard copped a few boos, as if they don't boo everyone all the time for anything. Since Covid, crowds have felt more aggressive and less friendly. I really do think its time for club-based seating as an option in the decent seats, not just behind the goals in a non-enforced way.

The only coach who should survive the season is Chaplin, and even then it may be time for him to move on too. Goodwin, McQualter, Stafford, Mark Williams and Conca should all be out on their ear. Under them, we are less than the sum of our parts.

Looks at the umpire every time he's touched. Can't stand the bloke and the protection racket around him. That 50 was a disgrace.

I dread the inevitable dropping of Howes, Laurie and Turner for Woey, McAdam & B.Brown whilst the likes of Petty, Sparrow, Bowey etc get away with the bare minimum as always.

I feel sick. I feel embarrassed that we turned up like that after Freo. And I feel like I'm losing my mind seeing so many people be optimsitic and suggest goal kicking was the difference today.

Whose job is it to drive the standard?

Couldn't agree more. The culture from a player-focussed POV is there. The guys are happy and well-supported. From a competitive, elite sporting POV it is non-existent. Relying on a few guys who learned under Roos to drag us on their shoulders.

It's over. We look like sisyphus. Rolling the stone up the hill. This club is uncompetitive at the moment. Its time for big change. The collective effort is there but pathetic efforts from guys like Bowey at the end there and McVee on Schultz epitomise that the standards being set are non-existent and it is killing the young players.

Love the honesty from him, but also appreciate the title. Enough is enough in more ways than one.

Yep, and trading away all of our seconds for marginal gains has left the cupboard bare at Casey. There was a time not all that long ago when Taylor loved using second round picks. Nothing against the kid either, but was Tholstrup the profile of players who was worth trading a bunch of mid 20s and early 30s picks for? We got a slight upgrade for all of those picks.

How were we awful in three quarters against Carlton? They smashed us in the first, then the 2nd and 3rd quarters were dead level.