Sydee

Fair enough - my point was that he has more value to Sydney @now than us because we have Max. The salary is kind of irrelevant because both clubs will/have paid that. We paid pick 25 and in my opinion the jury was still out on whether his body was still sound enough - he has proven that it is - therefore I'd still expect a pick inside 25. Time will tell

Might be a bit of premature speculation there DS

If we didn't get Fullarton I'd be interested in Jordon Sweet as a young promising ruck - always going to be bridesmaid to English

I think that's a bit unfair - the truth is when Max was unavailable, he was first choice at ruck, and he performed well. Unfortunately trying to play two AA rucks and split their time doing what they do best (#1 ruck) just didn't really work because neither are great forwards. The Swans don't need a forward ruck they need a quality AA ruckman - enter Brodie Grundy His value to the Swans should not be underestimated. If they want him and IMO they should the Swans need to pay a fair price. Early second round is the worst we should consider fair. As an aside I'm still shaking my head over the ridiculous Pick 3 compensation for McKay - perhaps not relevant but as BT would say Woweee

I would have thought Howes should be aiming for a wing spot in 2024. In order to get a chance he really needs to work very hard on his fitness this off season (see J McVee) We are pretty well set for HBF and personally I see Howes more of an outside runner / linkman than hard one on one defender. Just my opinion though.

I wouldn't be surprised if they played finals in 2025. AFL seems to have a way to get things done when there is a desire to do it. They have some talent now and will load up again this year. There's no doubt they are on an upwards trajectory.

Welcome to the NMFC Harley Reid

wow - sounds like one that we can all get very excited about in 2024 😲 I for one think you might be being a touch harsh - but if he does join us let's all get behind him and hope he surprises you

Well, that seems a little bit inconsistent with him requesting a trade to us.

Swans are smart list managers I wouldn’t call them scrooges if they can get deals done

Last year we got Jed Adams with pick 38 - seems like unders for a multiple AA Ruckman but what would I know.

No way if it means Petty goes

Because it’s Collingwood and his name is Daicos

Funny you say Watson I thought he looked like a faster version of Mark Harvey

It is beyond ridiculous - before the AFL decided that it was essential that Carlton play and win finals the umpires call was irreversible unless there was clear evidence to the contrary Well that went flying out the door quick and remarkably it always seems to favour CFC Hopefully there will be a system next season that is not so easily manipulated

Ok clearly you don't rate him Against the Blues He had more disposals and less game time than the following. McVee Fritta Bowey Jordon Smith Chandler TMac He chases hard, can tackle and when he gets the ball he is creative and does hit targets consistently. If you don't think that's correct, I'd suggest you don't watch too many games. I'd be sending Chandler packing well before Spargo - Chandler did SFA during that game and the same can be said of Jordon. You find out a lot about individual players when it really matters (finals)

So we get rid of the only bloke that consistently hits targets inside 50 - our biggest weakness Strange if true

I feel our biggest Achilles heel is both field kicking and goal kicking - a 10% improvement in both and we are probably playing this weekend Easy in theory but not sure it's possible to achieve without some different playing personnel - unfortunately some of our best players are actually also the worst offenders. It's going to be quite fascinating to see what the club does over the off season.

I have a mate who is friends with Levi - his knees are about as good as BBB - look elsewhere is my suggestion

He is a suited to a pocket or flank - he doesn't have the size for KPB imo

Would be a big risk to try Disco forward but he is mobile and can take a grab - can see him adding more as a forward than Grundy tbh

Nah sorry nobody deserves to lose on a crappy score review system After our loss to Carlton we all said it’s going to cost someone a final - well here we are it has Its a farce

So Carlton only have to get close and it’s a touched ball on the goal line unbelievable

Comedy gold from the score review again Swans goal called no obvious touch - called behind what a joke

Mentally is Grundy still a Demon or has he already checked out of the building? I suspect he has at least one foot out the door as he is meeting other clubs while we ae still playing finals. We saw how effective Jackson was after his mind left to go west. Tomlinson can't compete with any big forward that has a) speed or b) can jump more than 5 cm off the ground so not sure he gets a game unless there is a specific match up that suits - I can't think of one in either Carlton or Sydney (which is the reason Turner played in Sydney) JVR shouldn't be suspended but we always seem to be on the wrong side of the Tribunal Laurie isn't ready for the heat of finals - I'd also say Chandler would be very lucky to retain his spot - personally prefer Spargo who while not a big possession getter is one of our best and most creative users inside F50 - something we are poor at atm. We lost this game because despite having almost double the number of F50 entries we continue to hack the ball in high and slow - unless we wake up and address that we are going to lose most games, particularly finals. Our efficiency inside F50 of 33% last night is really embarrassing and some real soul searching needs to happen very quickly.