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Where is that 1/3rd, please?

That is a bit depressing. If after all these years they can't find a 'site within the Melbourne and Olympic precinct then it aint going to happen. There just isn't any 'empty'/unused land there that hasn't been claimed by other sports/community interests. Time for the Board to see the writing on the wall, put egos aside and move on to another location. Surely we can be creative enough to find another inner city precinct where we can partner with a community/educational/multicultural/sporting organisations that would welcome what a shared facility with mfc can bring. We won't get a piece of dirt any other way.

Surprised that we are the 4th eldest @ 25.08. Geelong not that far ahead @ 25.48 courtesy of all those 1st round local lads that returned home. Even so it is misleading as they have a lot of players over 30 mostly in their best 22. Game day age profiles will be quite different.

I was wrong on both clubs. Really glad North are still in it. They lost the Friday nights they pioneered decades ago and it would be inappropriate for them to lose GF now. They need the leg up. As for Carlton. Just as bad as Ess getting the GF gig!

A few decent opp players are out until the new year: Sam Walsh, Max King, De Goey, Stringer who seems to never e fit! It can't help their season build up.

Can't get behind the paywall but just saw this on HS website: Good Friday club dumped for Vic powerhouse "The AFL will thrust one of the biggest clubs in the league into the Good Friday limelight in a bid to add some extra spice to the annual public holiday game". Any guesses? My guess is Essendon for North/Saints. Just doesn't seem fair whoever it is being dumped.

I can see the Dogs getting more than their share of night games...again. Never ends. Protected by umpies. Promoted by the AFL!!

Isn't the 'magic' round fixture due out today

Or a mate that Pell gave info to, or Pell himself told other mates etc A bit early to tarnish the whole umpire fraternity.

@WalkingCivilWarwon't recognise him...😜

That is the problem - it has all been 'stop gap'. Nothing of any substance. Now that government distractions have passed (covid, election) there are no excuses for not announcing the plan including location to gt funding. Other clubs seem to have their act together sufficiently to get necessary approvals (eg community, LGA, etc) and funding. If they haven't found a location by now we may as sell forget it happening.

We may not get so many night games this year with four teams finishing ahead of us wanting the bright lights. And Carlton, Ess and Bulldogs will as usual get more than their ladder position warrants. I would rather have our night games in Mar to May than June to Aug and hopefully the night games in the winter months are in the warmer states. The MCG is bitter at night in winter. As an aside, I note the AFL has brought forward the Friday night game but by only 10 minutes to 7.40 pm. Bit of a token effort given nearly everyone wants it at the same time as Thursday (7.20pm) or Saturday (7.25pm) night.

The might do something of that ilk next year. Keep an eye out around May.

They must know a demon supporter as that is an 'old style' scarf; not sure how long ago it was around. Its my fave and the one I wear despite the many 'member' scarves I have received.

Thanks for the extra info guys Chart now fixed...with just a few key strokes - the wonders of an Excel spreadsheet🙂

The new 2023 List is in this thread

Your maths is perfect! Due to covid the AFL extended the rookie list timeframe in 2020/2021. I believe it is now 3 years again.

LATEST VERSION AS OF OCTOBER 31 ************************************************************************************************** Original Post (Nov 2022): Re the chart: Senior draftees added: Jefferson and Adams as Senior List players. A - rookie draftees added: Sestan and Verrall Games played has been updated. Chandler is now officially a senior player. A new addition to the chart is the 2023 draft picks of which we have 2 x F1 and 2 x F2. Time to death ride Freo all the way in 2023. !!! Assuming the 2022 mix of Senior/A-rookie players, we have no senior spots and 1 A-rookie spots. However the club can change this mix to what is allowed if it wants to add a senior player eg a DFA ala Dunstan last year. Otherwise we keep the 1 A-rookie spots for the SSP and mid season draft or not fill our quota of 42 players. Quite a talented list of potential 'Milestone' games in the 2023 H & A season: 200: Hibberd, May, Gawn, Grundy 150: Neal Bullen, Harmes, Langdon, Lever, Salem, Brayshaw, Oliver 100: Spargo If 150 games is the 'sweet spot' for an AFL player at their peak, we are there!! In terms of 2023 contract renewals the potential outcomes are: Retirements: Hibberd, Melksham Non-renewals: Dunstan Trades if requested: Jordon, Neal Bullen. Note: Both are Unrestricted FA's so they could go to a club of their choice and we take the AFL compensation pick. New contracts for most of the other players, particularly Rivers. The special one is Kozzie's signature, hopefully sooner than later for 4 years ie his FA year (or longer) but would settle for 2 years. The 2022 Contracts thread can be found here:

WOW! That is really bad. Making fun of people's names is not OK. It is worse than mispronouncing someone's name; something most people get offended about. It certainly didn't please Petracca at the Brownlow when Gill kept misprouncing 'Petracca'.

I was thinking that. The common usage of a person being 'thick' is they are not very bright. So 'Thick-ett' could imply such of Kozzie and therefore easily taken as an offence if not by Kozzie by those close to him or senior people at the club, on Kozzie's behalf. Sloppy wording by whoever wrote it and it shouldn't get past the club's editors of marketing material. On that point alone I can see why it was taken down.

Lets not get too excited! Weddle and Jefferson are the two players drafted 11-21 that were Tsatas' Oakleigh Charges teammates!! Who else would he nominate....

We don't need to use all the picks we have. We simply 'pass' when that number comes up. We could have one more senior player and one less A-rookie next year if we wanted to use a later pick or one we trade in.

How is the hangover😜

Dockers didn't really pay much for his potential. Last night showed how grossly unbalanced the trade was. We couldn't get into the top 5/6 of the draft with their two mid/late first round picks nor get there when we added our F1 pick. The trade looks worse when we note that we gave them 47, (the pick we got for Bedford but we had wanted more from GWS). So all up the trade was Jackson, Bedford (aka #47) for two mid range firsts and a mid range 2nd. I've moved on but imv there is every reason to think he will be a champion for them altho most of us prefer he wasn't. Can't bring myself to not wish him well but I do hope Freo fail miserably in their pursuit of a flag for being such miserable trade players and especially after Bell's swipe at mfc recently.

I wonder how Phillipou felt sliding to the Saints. He was reported as saying he 'was made for playing in Melbourne' and wanted to play in front of big crowds...