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Josh Kennedy was massively underwhelming at the Blues therefore speculative at the time Moonshadow. Kennedy is also a West Australian. Watts was pick one in his year!

Does anyone really believe Martin, Petterd and Woewodin will be the difference between a premiership coming our way and losing it? Aren't they all playing/coaching bottom 4 to 6 teams?

If Cameron decides he is leaving it will force GWS hand. Pick two and three is overs for Cameron IMO. Not even Judd in his prime demanded two high draft picks. The club knows it needs midfielders. They won't give up 2 high draft picks. Unless Shiel is part of the package.

With Frawley leaving we could have Cameron and one of Brayshaw or Petracca

The Dom is good and will be a star. Along with Viney. Add Hogan and Cameron and the club for the first time since 1994 will have real stars. Let's hope injury does not kill us like 94.

A little unfair on Riley OD. The kid is coming off a broken leg and is hard as nails. He is a much better Mc Kenzie type IMO. Every club needs a hard head tagging type who can win his own ball.

Agree SoNS. We are in an age of equalisation (if there is such a thing with the AFL)

I posted this in another thread Apparently Tom Mitchell is on over $500,000 a year at the Swans (source - Mark Allen, SEN). I'd say the Swans would have to off load him to pay Buddy's, Tippett's, Ried's, etc etc pay next year. Off loading Malceski would help to My prediction is the Demons will off load a second rounder for Mitchell and Malceski. The Blues are after Mitchell too, they may beat us to the punch. If they do, the club would get Malceski for a low pick (not to dilute compensation for Frawley) My other prediction is the Dees are going hard for Cameron at GWS. We are the front runners as we have the money to pay for him and the draft pick to get him. Cameron would also enjoy the prospect of playing next to Hogan. As much as the club would love Frawley to stay, I'd say the club would be happy to let him go if the Cameron deal was in the bag. Probably why the club is going to the AFL wanting to know what compensation they will get for Frawley. Roos saying he would not play Frawley if he knew he was going to another club is all smoke and mirrors. Roos will not compromise the team losing games by over 10 goals as the team needs to believe they are competitive at AFL level. Playing Frawley as a forward is purely a move to keep us competitive, yet looking at the future without him. Frawley is not a swingman!! If the club does get Cameron, Hogan maybe seen as the swingman and be played as a backman

If we get a priority pick, it will be a end of first rounder which I doubt as Frawley leaving will give us a first rounder and the AFL gave us a second rounder for Sylvia last year (which was way overs)

I'm not fussed by this loss. Unlike other years, the club is in good hands and by getting a first or second draft pick helps us IMO. We keep losing because of the bottom feeders we have on our list. Tappy Terlich McKenzie Blease Strauss Matt Jones Nicholson Bail (has had a good year, but a top 8 team would have him as their 25th to 30th players on the list) Pederson (see Bail) Therefore there is too much reliance on our usual suspects and players who have had only 1, 2, or 3 years in the list.

Apparently Tom Mitchell is on over $500,000 a year at the Swans (source - Mark Allen, SEN). I'd say the Swans would have to off load him to pay Buddy's, Tippett's, Ried's, etc etc pay next year. Off loading Malceski would help to My prediction is the Demons will off load a second rounder for Mitchell and Malceski. The Blues are after Mitchell too, they may beat us to the punch. If they do, the club would get Malceski for a low pick (not to dilute compensation for Frawley) My other prediction is the Dees are going hard for Cameron at GWS. We are the front runners as we have the money to pay for him and the draft pick to get him. Cameron would also enjoy the prospect of playing next to Hogan. As much as the club would love Frawley to stay, I'd say the club would be happy to let him go if the Cameron deal was in the bag. Probably why the club is going to the AFL wanting to know what compensation they will get for Frawley. Roos saying he would not play Frawley if he knew he was going to another club is all smoke and mirrors. Roos will not compromise the team losing games by over 10 goals as the team needs to believe they are competitive at AFL level. Playing Frawley as a forward is purely a move to keep us competitive, yet looking at the future without him. Frawley is not a swingman!! If the club does get Cameron, Hogan maybe seen as the swingman and be played as a backman

I would say Lingy is on a short list at the moment. No guarantee! He will have to compete with around 4 others. I have no idea who is his competition, but if the club has made up their mind before exploring all options. This reeks of Neeld. Ling is the media's choice (as was Neeld). Hopefully the club is not reading trash not worthy of fish and chip wrapping. C,Mom Dees, let's see past the players management PR and get it right. If that's Lingy, great. Just get it right I'd say Kirk is another on the list.

Ling also said the leadership group were asking him about where he was heading. It's sounds as like they interviewed him and wanted to know about him too

Lingy didn't say he was interviewing the club, he said he a chat with some parties. Nothing wrong by going in and having a look to see if the club was going in the right direction. It's Been 50 years of the MFC going in the wrong direction. As Neeld said, you only get one chance at this coaching caper (in most cases). I would want to know that the management, admin and FD were going places. lingo also spoke to PJ. He was confident in the club direction

Lingy has just confirmed on Sat night footy he has met with Roos and the leadership group. He wanted to get an idea on how and where the club is heading. He said the club is on track, but has not decided if he will go in to coaching. It has Roos circa 2013 written all over it.

It was great to hear Kent. Things are positive at the club. I get that. But we are coming so far back from the rest of the pack, in reality things have a long way to go. One year with a great coach, who is doing great things has got us 4 wins out of 16. That's the reality.

The future looks bright when the club has 10 to 12 AFL ready players playing for Casey. At this stage we are 15 to 18 players short! If my math serves me right, we are at least 5 yrs away. This depends on good recruitment and development. Something the club has yet to master. Having said this, I have confidence in Viney, Taylor and Roos. But Roos is a short term prospect. I hope he leaves a legacy. Even better, Roos heading an academy after he has finished coaching. I'm happy Kent is seeing the positives in himself, Hogan JKH, Toumpass, and a few others. But he forgot to mention, Strauss, Blease, Tappscott, Spencer, Fitzy, , Brynes and others. Not to mention the others who are developing who are no guarantee to make it. Harmes, King etc. We are way off, but heading in the right direction. It's sad the club is hoping to win 8 games a year in the future, or scrape in the 8, but top 4 or real contenders is 5 years off at least, and I have heard of 5 year plans since the early 80's. 35 yrs later, we are a bottom 4 team.

I gotta say, I'm glad many are contextualising and defending Dawes! He has played a lone hand in a make shift forward line. The only other natural forward he has had to work with is a 2013 draftee. JKH. As others have said; Poor delivery Competes on very level Kicks goals Tackles And is leading the way as a forward. Let's wait til He is able to team up with Hogan, JKH matures and he has quality midfielders resting next to him. I'll add, Watts has improved a lot having Dawes In The forward line. Watts can now take the third tall or a shorter HBF and exploit who ever is playing on him. That's with Frawley playing the second KPF.

With the AFL providing the support for all clubs to pay 100% of the salary cap! this would mean the club has lots of money to bring players into the club. When does this rule take place?

I hope like hell your right JVFP! Mitchell is a potential star. With Viney, Tyson, Jones, Salem, Toump, Kent, Trengove, Kennedy Harris, Watts, Hogan, Howe, and McDonald we have a serious team of players to take us forward a tilt toward a premiership. I'll add Riley (serious meat and potatoes type which every club needs but has more tricks than McKenzie) and Gawn (who I think I is a player) All these players are young and are yet to reach their potential. I could add Dawes, Frawley, Grimes, Garland, Dunn who are young enough to see success.

J Watson?? Out for the year apparently.

I can remember many more BAD loses from this club in the last 2 yrs. if we lose, it's no where near our worst.......

Why don't you just celebrate the intent, and desperation from Jack! Too many express anger toward Jack because he is an easy target. Lay off....

I feel sorry the way supporters attack previous (and current) players at this club. Some may call Moloney a "flat track Bully", I call him a barometer at that time at this club. He played and wore his jumper proudly. The fact that his best was not as good as an Ablett, is not his fault. He was never an A grade midfielder. He performance was as reflective of the list that was around him at the time. I love how some are backing Neeld in this case. IMO, Neeld had massive communication issues. He was offensive on so many different levels. Nuff said there History will prove Moloney will be remembered as a better club man than Neeld. Nuff said here too!

An organisation should aim to be an employer of choice. As a result, an organisation should exercise common sense and a heart. The Neeld years were an example of a Dictatorship. Roos, I believe, understands this. We can't compete on a,performance level, therefore the club should aim to be an employer of choice in EVERY other area. It's very understandable that Mitch take some leave as a result of the mental/emotional strain he has been under for 2 years. He isn't going to play or be able train fully for some weeks. Therefore give him a break to come back (at some level) refreshed... As I said. Common Sense!