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To add to my argument, we chose Cook over Darling and we regret it....big time.

I thought you had me on ignore. Nonetheless I don't think 1 player out of 40 can hurt our culture, and if 1 new 18 yr old recruit can hurt the culture of a whole club then our culture must be really really [censored]. We can groom him with the others.

Because Sydney don't think his worth it doesn't mean we should copy what they think. We will never win a premiership that way, we need to be able to do what the other 17 clubs can't do to get ahead of them and a good place would be to groom Garlett into a professional AFL athlete.

Does Garlett remind anyone else of Chris Brown?

Is he wearing a West Coast polo?

Garlett is a good football player. Garlett is not a professional athlete.

Read on afl website that Toumpas was telling his family that he would be wearing #5

How many games have you seen Evans play?

I have no idea as to how it would benefit them to send out mixed messages however. Unless they are trying to confuse clubs in an attempt to get Menzel at 14

Stringer

Ben hur ignores everyone. He ll be talking to himself in no time.

The piece of paper from Neeld may possibly say 'Draft whoever's name is highest on the list on the list below and is still available at #4' 1. Toumpas 2. Wines 3. O'Rourke Then draft 2 of the craftiest small forwards available at picks 49/53 and a tough hard working small defender at 70 thanks'

I am happy to agree to dis-agree on this one. I am standing by it that the larger blame should be on BP. It is BP's job to identify what traits/characteristics/skill sets players need to make it in the AFL and he obviously over-looked the fact that a bit of mongrel and hardness was a required part of a player to make it as a top line player.

Why would I blame Watts? He didn't choose himself to be pick #1. BP did. Blame a kid for something he had no power over? If BP took him at pick #20 for example I wouldn't be posting 'He has not lived up to pick #20 so far'.

thinking about it I think BP would go for Mayes

Wonder who BP would take at pick #4 this year if he was still at the helm.

Maybe part of Hogan deal was to let Toumpas slip to 4

Read my post earlier that i wrotr about him. Sums up my thoughts on Watts

Cool, putting words in my mouth. Leave that to the media.

Those people getting upset at others for talking about Watts in a training thread are going to have a fit reading posts about spelling and grammar.

My honest opinion of him is that so far he has not lived up to his #1 pick. Not his fault, BPs fault. He is talented and skilled yes, got given games on a silver platter from DB. I hope he does well and I think he really will need to step his game to a new level in 2013 as he will have many players knocking on the door for his spot in the team at half back. If he slacks off Neeld will drop him to Casey in a heartbeat.

Settle down champ. Their is only so much people can say about training without talking about the players who attend training... Someone posted a picture of Jack Watts at training hence the discussion.

JW needs more mongrel, his skills wont get him far until he gets it

1. Whitfield (GWS) 2. Toumpas (GWS) 3. Plowman (GWS) 4. Wines (MFC) 5. O'Rourke (Dogs) 6. Stringer (Dogs) 7. Mayes (Port) 8. Macrae (Bris) 9. Grundy (Rich) 10. Daniher (Ess)

? How did me asking if he was waiting for a truck make you come to that conclusion?