Josh

Yes and that was good, happy to see a little bit of flying the flag. But 24 disposals at 87% effective, 7 rebound 50's is pretty imposing. And when they send there captian to the goal square to try and win the game (which at the time I thought was a great move BTW) and Watts takes him 1 on 1 and wins that is imposing. There are alot of ways to make your presence felt and pushing and shoving is just one part that he lacks.

I dont have a problem with Watts having no agression. I agree he can be harder at the tackle and stand his ground more but I love the cool head on his shoulders, in this day and age he ran around like Barry Hall and threw his weight around he would be forever rubbed out. Also why does he need to have a position? What position did James Hird play? In the opinion of some one of the best ever he went to wear he was needed, play watts where we need him on the day. Foward, back, centre it really seems to make no difference with his skill set.

No love for Patty D? Ablett is probably the best foodballer ever?

Its not that silly, I dont mind it at all. Is he going to ba accountable one on one though? I can see him doing a very similar role to Maxwell from Collingwood.

This is true but what good are the rucks we have if they are no good, Fitzy and Gawn show promise but need more time, idealy Jamar would pull his finger out but with this new attitude of I dont care who you are if you dont perform your out (and I like it) then Clark is the only one left to play ruck We are getting smashed out of the center and its no good having Clark wait in the goal square when we have stuff all inside 50's, get Clark on the ball, get the ball inside 50 and cross the goal scoring bridge when we get there. But I do understand, that throws up an even bigger challenge, who replaces Clark at full foward? The only option I can think off is a quick medium foward setup, Petterd, Dunn, Davey, Bate, Sylvia, Jurrah, Green etc Carlton dont have any big classic style fowards but they make it work. IMO if our on ballers can get good delivery they can be alot better, thinking back to when Jamar and moloney were the number 1 clearence duo in the comp (dont quote me) but how can that just disappear? something has gone wrong, at least try Clark for a game or 2 and if things look better statistically out of the center (which is where we are getting destroyed) I think it will be a step in the right direction.

We went and got Clark because we needed a full foward, but perhapes he will be better in the ruck? They say his best footy is in the ruck. We can go another foward next year but I would love to try Clark in the ruck swaping with Martin out of foward line

I agree, if we are gonna get beaten each week cut away all the dead wood so there isnt a single player over 25, play the kids

Im from Corowa, the Corowa 2nds had there first win in 2.5 years, there on a roll give them a run...

dees best and fairest? - Maloney dees best 1st year player? - Magner goals clark will kick? - 50 games jurrah will play? - 12 dees surprise of the year? - Davey retires premiers? - Collingwood first coach to get sacked? - None biggest off field controversy? - Falou walks out on GWS games won by gws? - 0

Considering our start to the year i think things are gonna get worse around here before they get better. But what is a pass mark for us this year? As far as im concerned because we are on the up anything better than last year is a pass, ill be happy if we miss finals by a game or 2, and over the moon if we make finals.

Interesting to see dustin martin at 30 odd or whatever he was, do we recruit players that arent as good or once the get to the club does it go pear shaped. If we had have taken Martin instead of trengrove would martin still be as good?

Rubish If we are relying on a mature age rookie we are in my trouble than anyone could imagine

If we say that a player will retire at 31-32 (I know thats a huge generalisation but play along) in 4 years time we will have lost Green, Jamar, Davey, Maloney, Macdonald and Rivers. Sylvia and Martin will be around 30, in the so called twlight of there years. But in 4 years the list of players between 25-28 is huge, Clark Jones Garland Bail Petterd Frawley Jurrah Grimes Mckenzie Strauss Howe. An there is more that will be knocking on the door at 24 yrs old, Watts Gysberts Blease Tappscott Trengrove. There is 16 players who in my opinion have the ability and can play together for 4 years and they will all still be between 24 and 28 years old. Add a few quality kids and maybe another trade or 2 and we are looking at a quality team And that is only in 4 years, I think our "premership window" can start to crack open in 3 years but may last a while, realisticly we should be looking more towards 2016-2020 IMO.

totally agree, he has had time off with a wrist problem and he is getting into fights? If it was family issues then thats fine he made a choice to stand by his people and his family, nothing to be ashamed off. But now the Melbourne Football Club must make a choice, and make a stand and not accept this kind of behaviour from anyone for any reason, no matter who you are. I think they will too, offer support to him yes help him through this time but never represent our club again thank you theres the door

Totally agree, we are in the middle of the pack and have been the last 2 years, to make the finals we will have to have a win against collingwood or geelong or one of the top 5 or so teams, then we need to win more than we loose against oother teams around the middle like essendon north richmond and then beat GWS port brisbane and the other teams at the bottom, as for my opinion I think we will finsh very similar to last year and the year before that, a game or 2 out of the eight but I would love to be proven wrong and we are starting to run out of excuesses

If you had to upgrade one of Magner and Nicholson after last nights performance which would it be?

For some reason I can just see him playing as a CHB in a similar way to Tarrant and Reid, just defending at all costs on one of the best 2 fowards, huge man, very strong, fit and quick for his size, and very clever too, should be able to read the ball coming down the ground easily. And even if he ends up on the end of a line a play I wouldnt mind him rebounding either his skills are pretty good. With 2 rebounding defenders Grimes/Nicholson and Bail/Tapscott, Fralwey and Garland are traditional defenders and at the moment Rivers as well, I would rather see Martin instead of Rivers. And I also think we are missing a small defender Bartrum isnt up to it, I love him and his work ethic and huge heart but his skills are no where near AFL standard IMO

Is the general public allowed to take signs into games especially at the MCG? Is there a size limit or a certian section you have to be sitting in? Ive always thought a big banner with "WELCOME TO HELL" would be good, whats everyone elses ideas?

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Love OOOOOOOOOzey hope he does really well,

Hopefully see flash return to the foward line and pick up a few this year but hope he dosnt lead our goal kicking... I think Green in a return to a lead up full foward type like 2011 and kick 60 odd but its good that there is so many to share the burden, gone are the days of Tony Lockett and such, I wonder now if anyone can ever beat his record?

I am 24 years old and recently completed a leadership course through work as i move up the ranks of a rather large company. The single most important thing we were taught was communication which included everything from talking, listening, body language, the way you dress and present yourself, everything about you when you interact with other people. Positive and negative feedback to players, coaches, media, everyone. I also remember reading an article somewhere about Hawthorns captiancy. From a spectators point of view on the field luke hodge is the leader of that club. but off the field someone has to go and meet sponsors and do media commitments and things like that, a very busy person. I think there is a whole lot more than I could imagine involved in being an AFL captin. Maloney and Frawley seem to be our on field leaders but from what i hear Grimes is so very professional off the field and apparently held in very high regard. Having siad that I still dont think think there is a stand out captian which is probably why we have these disscusions.

I keep hearing Matty Bate's name, he is looking fit and involved, starting to believe the hype about seeing him in the midfield next year, good luck to him

In around the eight, realisticly probably just miss out but hope to see more consistancy and be happy with 20 odd more games into all the young brigade... Also fingers crossed we can get a whole season out of my main man Grimes Collingwood Hawthorn Geelong Westcoast Carlton Fremantle Sydney Stkilda Essendon North Melbourne Richmond Dogs Adelaide Brisbane Gold Coast Port GWS

I had Zac Smith and Brandon Matera from GC last year and both were brilliant, there is obviously good choices in the new sides, its getting the right ones. I agree Patton will not score very well but 90% of there team will be cheap (150000 ish) and play alot of games, good value for money if you get it right.