Undeeterred

I think what I'm saying is that, to PaulRB's original point, just because players look good in their first year or two doesn't make them good players. They are just good young players until they're good older players, or not.

He's had about two games back at Casey, and we have about 8 other players who have been consistently picking up 30+ touches in the same games, and have much better form over the rest of the season. Not that hard to work out, I wouldn't think.

Sure, with finals on the line, blow the cobwebs off a guy who hasn't played all year.

Oh, mate.

You said the fact we had lots of nominations this year meant the recruiters had been doing a good job. He is saying we had more nominations in a period that has proven to be one of absolutely shocking recruiting. His point therefore is that nominations do not equal good recruiting. It just means that young players have been good both times. The difference, in my view, is that this young crop will be developed properly, whereas the 2008-2011 crop got their nominations before they were Melbournised.

Well, sure, but why is it ok that these peanuts are allowed to get away with this? Bernie Vince wafts an elbow within 5 feet of someone's face and gets rubbed out. These guys (including Mitchell last week) are allowed to make contact to the face, and nothing happens. It irritates the [censored] out of me.

Another sacred cow gets away with deliberately smashing someone's face http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-15/mrp-simon-tunbridge-charged-twice-boomer-avoids-ban [censored] you Boomer Harvey and [censored] you MRP.

How do you feel about Essendon getting pick 1, just out of interest?

Gee there's some talent on that list.

He's surprisingly hard at it for such a quick bloke. Almost the complete package really, good mark, loves a goal etc.

I was 15 rows back in the members, right in front of it. Was disgusting.

Our point differential with North is only 49 now....

We've turned very quickly into a team that should put bad teams away by 10 goals. Bloody fantastic, as frustrating as a lot of that game was.

As if. Want more goals!

What balls. He's been one of our better players. Did you miss his two goals?

Tom McDonald has been immense. Jetta and Hunt fantastic also.

Not now. But we've been in danger a lot of the night tonight and we're super lucky that they are 2-3 men down and complete shite to boot.

This. He's been dreadful.

At least he's getting hold of it. He is one of very few in this second half to get anywhere near it.

How the [censored] did that goal even happen

I reckon that's Frost's first touch since early in the second quarter. What a bloody great tackle Jayden Hunt.

He's been a very, very good kick this year.

Gee could have killed them with that one Gawny! Still, can't complain.

We're looking much more composed this quarter. We'll be right.

Another miss to Jones.