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Nice going there Wadda ... hope you get it. Waiting on the others with their sporting best bets but I'm giving the Waratahs another chance at home against strong opposition. Tahs (1-12) over the Highlanders $3.75

So do they win out of turn Wadda? It seems that way sometimes. I reckon a lot of my best bets have won their next races rather than the one I nominated them for ?

It is a 400m - 500m straight dash from the barriers to the turn at Morphettville but even though Vega Magic is a fast starter it still may be caught wide with so many decent sprinters in the race. The race is a bit of a lottery to be perfectly honest but Voodoo Lad has real claims.

I could find quite a few that can get into the finish in the race but no standout winners ... but that's just me. It is more like a Group 2 race in that sense. The 3 we've nominated all have claims though Wadda. The Goodwood race is all the more harder to figure out. I'm not sold on Vega Magic yet it is JJ's best bet.

Satono Rasen is my pick but not with any confidence ... this race has 'Box5' written all over it. The good news is that it could well be a healthy dividend. So it is back to you to finish things off BM ... good luck.

Looks like the Doomben Cup it is then DZ ... and it's over to you to kick things off! Good luck!

We're due for a change of order for the trifecta combo as well. How does this look - we all rotate one spot and we go with the new order for 4 weeks (?) W/2/3 - Dee Zephyr W/2/3 - Wadda We Sing W/2/3 - Macca 2/3 - binman 2/3 - binman

Yep ... the Doomben Cup seems an easier proposition all things considered.

@Wadda We Sing @Dee Zephyr @binman Found 3 races this weekend that are likely candidates for our combined trifecta - amongst them the 'Roma Cup' from Ascot that has a quality field from the mostly local WA horses. The G1 Goodwood has a field of 20 comprising a number of crack sprinters whilst the G1 Doomben Cup has some classy runners as well. At this time of year I'll restrict my betting to these 3 races only but more so 2-5-5-5 First4's. A small outlay to hopefully win big ? Doomben Cup G1 WFA 2000m $650k The Goodwood G1 SW+P 1200m $1Million Roma Cup G3 WFA 1200m $150k

Trifecta Strike Rate 4: 1 - 3 (-$6.50) Best Bet Strike Rate 49: 24 - 11 - 2 Australian Group and Listed Races And here are the replays of the weekend's Group 1 races (you'll need to logon to watch the Australian Group 1's) The races following are the WFA Man O War Stakes from Belmont Park (USA) and the 2 Group 1 Guineas races from Longchamp (France) Doomben 10000 South Australian Derby Fast Forward to the 11.40 mark for the start of the following race ...

Ended up slightly in front for the day landing 2 doubles but it could have been a real bumper day - Demons winning easily was a good end to proceedings though. The dividends in the Doomben 10000 were quite remarkable when factoring in the quality of horses that got into the finish. All it needed was for the 2 favoured horses to finish out of the top 3. But English, Impending & Le Romain are all class gallopers.

Box the 5 and you got it ... I did everything but. Ugh!! You got the winner and 2nd DZ ... the first 4 paid in excess of 2k with our selections (if boxed)

I posted up JJ's best bet (Tequila Time) as well as Sky Thoroughbreds best bet last night (Moss Trip) Half way down on the previous page ... golden rule here Wadda - scroll back! ?

Moss trip as well here!

Trifecta combo (3-5-5) Doomben Race 8 1, 3, 12/ 1, 2, 3, 12, 13/ 1, 2, 3, 12, 13

Yep, Le Remain was a head off running a track record at its last run - albeit over 1400m. However, as you said, that's a good form line in terms of finishing speed and it can get a good position in this race as well (it should settle just behind 'In Her Time' in the running if the speed maps are accurate) So it's over to @Dee Zephyr to finish off the combo.

In the end I decided on Darren Weir's horse 'Leicester' in the SA Derby as my best bet. Morphettville Race 7 No.3 ($4.60) ... it is also paying $1.90 the place. I believe it has drawn well enough to get a good run in the race and it does finish off its races well. And its main rivals have drawn wide or are drawn outside of it. I had it marked on top when I put together a trifecta in the race.

Yep ... Redzel has to be included Wadda so I'll take 'In Her Time' as the 2nd choice winner. Like Redzel, In Her Time should get into a decent settling position in front of a number of other fancied runners. Good closing speed should get her into the finish. So it's over to @binman to come up with the 3rd choice winner. Lots of value after the first 2 as well. And it's obviously a better dividend with the value runner saluting. No pressure though BM! ?

The trainer of 'Houtzen' mentioned this morning on RSN that the horse won't be ridden forward and would be ridden for luck. No doubt because of the wide gate. It's a 350 metre dash to that big long turn at Doomben so the settling positions of the horses are all important - those leading can scoot away entering the 350 metre long straight so if there's any inside bias, it could be a leaders track. A few of the more fancied runners might be coming from a fair way back. A good field though. And Darren Weir was a little circumspect about the 2500m with Leicester but the same could be said for a number of the other horses in the race. Tough race to find the right trifecta combo, all the same. As you said DZ, let's get the 2 wins!

Well, the Doomben 10,000 it is then gentlemen ... over to you @Wadda We Sing for the first tip. Got a half-decent percentage of the First4 in the Scone Cup today ... those speed maps, settling positions and finishing speeds on racenet.com came in real handy. Would have got the first5 if there was such a thing! Whilst I'm here, I may as well post up the best bets from the experts ... however, Gator's tip might be a bit of a risk after all the rain we've had but I'll post it up anyway. The treble might be worth a fiver - you never know. James Jordan (JJ) - Morphettville Race 4 No.1 Tequila Time $4.40 Sky Thoroughbred - Scone Race 4 No.8 Moss Trip $3.40 Gator (Racing.com) - Caulfield Race 3 No.1 Amovatio $5.50 The 'Get On' crew are split between 'Main Stage' & 'Leicester' in the SA Derby. They had a good chat about the Doomben 10000 as well but I'll leave that evaluation aside and let you fellas break it all down. After Wadda and myself have our picks it's then over to @binman and then @Dee Zephyr @Dee Zephyr @binman

I agree DZ ... the Doomben 10000 would be my choice. I also prefer to limit these trifecta combined efforts to the Group 1 races only. That is generally how I operate. That would take us to late June and then we could start up again in early September. Just a thought.

You could be right Wadda ... I read somewhere that they are trying to address the issue but those HK based horses are free to go to other major racing centre's virtually unhindered (like Royal Ascot) It's just here where the quarantine laws are way too tough on horses from certain countries yet not tough at all with horses from other countries. There's no standard practice from what I can gather.

Different quarantine rules I believe Wadda ... for the HK raced horses to race here they are required to be quarantined somewhere in China for 6 months. Therefore, the owners don't bother. For the Japan based horses, it might only be a couple of weeks there and a couple of weeks here (quarantine) ... UK based horses the same? Beat the Clock is an Australian bred horse for instance but we'll probably never see the horse race here ... I'd love to see that horse along with Mr Stunning, DB Pin & Ivictory all over here racing in our sprint races.

The quarantine laws for the HK horses makes it darn near impossible for the top horses there to race here ... but there's always Chautauqua, Wadda! And Merchant Navy, Viddora, Vega Magic, Brave Smash et al. Quite simply, they should find a way for horses like Pakistan Star, Beauty Generation, Beat the Clock and others to be able to run in our big races.

Shoals to race on and then go to Royal Ascot next winter - so there's a chance the horse will run in the Goodwood on the 19th of May. The horse has been entered for the race. Listen here for more details (Racing pulse interviews the owner of Shoals, John Messara - Podcast #10) Shoals will also be a likely starter for 'The Everest' ... which is shaping up as having an outstanding field assembled with Redzel, Trapeze Artist & In Her Time already confirmed. Happy Clapper is a real possibility along with Kementari & Redkirk Warrior. Winx is an outside chance of running as well - you never know. With $7.8Million awarded to the winner, why not?