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And there's a decent pipe-opener to begin the weekend's racing (tomorrow night at the Valley) A good betting race with at least 4 strong winning chances. Moonee Valley Race 7 Typhoon Tracy Stakes Group 3 SW+P 3yo Fillies

Now that is a good multi and well thought out by the team. We only need the 1 win (Cool Passion) and we've got the leading tipster here (Deeza) with that one. The 2 place chances include Hartnell who is an absolute proven big race performer whilst Athiri has got the closing speed (with Craig Williams on board) to get into the finish. 77/1 is overs! (I just got on at 90-1)

If I get any bonus bets I will be plunging big time on the Deeza pick. A free bet for a certain win! No pressure though Deeza

I just got 4.90 (place) for Hartnell on Laddies ... the plunge is on though Wadda (emanating from 'land) so it will no doubt shorten!

Use the pick anyway you like with these value picks Wadda ... if win & place I'd recommend 6 units the win, 4 units the place (money back for 2nd or 3rd) In the exotics I'd mark it on top with 2 others, in a quaddie as part of a multiple choice and in a multi - take your pick - win or place. But to make a choice - place preferred in a multi ($2.70) but the horse can win and Gator has picked it to win as well and that has reinforced my thoughts. As for Deeza's pick last week ... I got the win collect & the exacta (which paid surprisingly well) with 'Amphitrite' ... so 3 collects with our 3 picks. Overall, I was down a little bit last week but our picks got me close to breaking even. So the value was there. Gee I like the $4.40 for Hartnell (place) ... seems overs considering the class of the horse and it's ability to get into the finish.

Race 6 is the Futurity Wadda ... you posted the Hartnell race as race 7 But you're spot on Wadda ... I'm going to go for the value pick as a value pick can be used for all sorts of reasons ... small win bet, the place, in quaddies and in all the exotics. I liked your pick last week (Osborne Bulls) because if the horse got into the finish I was highly likely to win (it didn't have to win) But I should emphasise that my choice of best bet is my preference only ... others can do whatever they like. Nice discussion mate. Best Bet Caulfield Race 7 No.11 Athiri $8.50 ($2.70 the place)

Related (in terms of odd versions of real sport) 'Live' tonight on Fox is the E-League (goes for 3 hours) ... A-League soccer clubs are represented by contracted players in the EA Sports FIFA video game. Are we supposed to actually 'barrack' somehow? What do they do in place of tossing a coin? The world we live in hey.

I am not really a multi punter in terms of it being a predominant way of punting. For instance, I won on 2 of our picks last week, missed on the other 1 and missed on the multi (as we all did) So I prefer it when there is value on offer on any of the picks. But that's just me

My tips are generally 3.00 or better ...in a multi Nature Strip is a good pick but really only for multi punters. The shorties are no-brainers but if we're happy with 10 -1 up to a 15-1 collect then maybe we should just put forward the no-brainers.

Not a fan? Can you point me towards anyone that is a fan rjay? It almost goes without saying (the not a fan bit) But these sorts of ventures often end up with some sort of fan base ... don't ask me how but it could come under the 10% rule.

One of the better days racing on the calendar Wadda Any number of short-priced favourites though ... same deal for the first half of the card at Rosehill. A total of 10 favourites at prohibitive odds or not much better. My strategy will be to include the shorties into exactas but hope that that the better value horses can pip the shorties. They won't all win and in fact maybe 5 of the 10 won't salute. Which ones? Anyone's guess!

Oddly enough what you've just said is probably true ET. And AFLX is galvanising otherwise sworn enemies on 'land. A peace has transcended over the place.

I reckon I have looked at Ajax at least a dozen times looking for half decent odds and the cupboard has been bare every time. They were 1.02 to win on the weekend. Not even Winx is ever that short Wadda!

NBA, MLB with a bit of SuperRugby & Soccer are my preferred options Wadda. Even International Rugby. I'm no good at Footy or Rugby league. Soccer is hit and miss but if Man City, Juventus, PSG or Barca offer up decent enough odds for a +2.5 Match Score, I may go down that path. Probably just those 4 teams though. Dortmund at home maybe as a 5th option? Ajax are another option but the odds for the Dutch giant are often quite prohibitive. Finding 1 standout baseball winner out of the 15 games that are played daily shouldn't be too tricky either (season starts in early April) Good teams on home field and a distinct pitching advantage are what I look for. But I'm usually looking at 3 or 4 for a multi so finding 1 shouldn't be too difficult. As you said, there's enough there to keep the thread ticking over and it's a good thing to refine sports & teams too. I like the idea of the multi involving multiple sports too ... my own multi's needs a mix too although I've done ok with 3pick NBA multi's of late.

It's how one responds to a loss ... that's all that really matters Wadda. Whether playing, as a spectator, involved somehow or even when punting. Soccer can be notoriously difficult sometimes as the scoreline often doesn't reflect the actual game. For that reason I may switch to the NBA for my pick ... that was my immediate reaction when I saw the Napoli/Torino scoreline on Monday morning. No chance of a nil-nil with the Warriors, Celtics, Rockets and a few others! (esp with those teams at home)

An example of my own version of 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind' (good movie) is that I have zero intention of ever watching the Prelim final from last year. It has been eradicated and I made that decision at half time of that game. Goodwin can and could use the game as a teaching tool though. But as a supporter, I am not interested.

I just never sweat the small stuff or at least I make every endeavour to not sweat the small stuff And if I do, make sure you let me know about it! To me, this is all just a few bets here and there and if I win or others win great ... if not, no big deal. I am not a bad loser or a sour loser but being reminded of a loss can annoy me. Sonetimes I will put a bit extra on 1 of my choices so if that choice loses, the last thing I want to do is explain the loss. Prefer to move on quickly. We are all different.

Ancient history as far as I'm concerned Wadda ... I get over a no result in a nanosecond and quickly move on. Therefore I am not interested in the Naples video. It is just how I am wired. I never complain about umpiring decisions in footy nor do I play the blame game in horse racing ... in any given race I fully expect 4 or 5 horses to get hampered for a run. And a least 1 of those horses could be mine Mulling over losses is a complete waste of time & energy. As for winning ... now that is something worth talking about. Your pick 《Roma) got up but the team multi lost ... and it is all about the team.

And possibly a great fillip for the caper too DD. I watched it and was a little bored until the great collapse happened. Then I was totally engaged. Eddie pre-match talking about the Stars winning as being like Collingwood winning a GF just added to the aftermath-drama. There is now a divide between the Stars & Rengades with villains on both sides. A geographic divide too by the looks of it. The rest of the teams and comp come along for the ride. Rivalries & tribalism can happen elsewhere - it's what the Big Bash needs. Fantasy sports surrounding t20 could become popular too. They just have to get all the scheduling right.

Soccer results

'Beauty Generation' an absolute class above up in HK (01:21.03 for the 1400m) They can't get near it - hands & heels as well. Formerly ran as 'Montaigne' in Australia and whilst here it ran 2nd in the Randwick Guineas & 4th in the BMW (as a 3yo) Unlike Winx, Beauty Generation is a front-runner so if they were ever to meet, I'd fancy Winx to cruise past but closer to the finishing line than Winx's Australian rivals. Sadly, because of the strict quarantine laws, they'll never meet.

Here are the 3 specials ... French Ligue 1 Monday at 07:00 St Etienne v PSG PSG Win & Over 2.5 Match goals $2.20 Italy (Serie A) Monday at 6.30am $2.20 Napoli Win & +2.5 Goals Match Score vs Torino Italia (Serie A) Tues 6.30am $2.00 Roma win & +2.5 Goals Match Score Vs Bologna With the help of odds booster/powerplay one should be able to get 10-1 or even 11-1. And because the multi carries on until Tuesday, cash-out becomes an option. Good luck all!

The track is a decent one (albeit a little slow) but the Renegades need to find a way to get to 140-150 (currently 5-102 off 16 overs) Haven't watched much this year but I've tuned in for the final without any allegiance for either side.

They ran 56.69 for the 1000m too Wadda ... Osborne Bulls has really come of age after working its way through the grades. It will probably win a G1 race soon enough but the sprint races are tough to win. I'm not sure any of the sprinters can get near 'Nature Strip' over the 1000m or 1100m though. NS will be running in the Oakleigh Plate next week and then the Newmarket you'd reckon. The 1200m might test NS but it's the quickest horse in Australia up to 1100m. Gator reckons NS is the quickest horse in the world over 1000m! But for the others (including OB) there's also the upcoming Galaxy, the TJ Smith, the All Aged Stakes, Ubet Classic, Doomben 10,000, the Goodwood, the Kingsford Smith finishing off with the Stradbroke. All Group 1's from 1100m up to 1400m for a lot of prizemoney. Shoals, Viddora, Santa Ana Lane, Pierata, Redzel, Le Romain, Showtime, and a number of other sprinters are set to return as well. And then there are the emerging 3yo sprinters such as Sunlight, Graff & Lean Mean Machine. The sprint races are very very competitive. They may decide to set Osborne Bulls for a few of the above races ... it will probably run in the Newmarket next but to win a race like the Newmarket, a horse generally needs an ideal run.

Best Bet Strike Rate 88: 35 - 14 - 12 Australian Group & Listed Races And here are a couple of replays from yesterday (Apollo Stakes & Lightning Stakes) followed by a replay of the CF Orr Stakes from last Saturday.