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Clarry best for us by a mile
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Clarry everywhere this quarter and taking over in the middle and around stoppages. The Barometer and quite often the difference in many tight matches.
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Great follow up work from LJ there! Exactly what's needed up forward
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Will Tracc ever learn to go back and assess before automatically rolling onto his right so often and looking to hit up a ghost inside 50 and/or putting himself under pressure. Both him and Clarry need serious work on their craft around the arc, coming inside 50 and shooting at goal from about 40 meters and closer on a set shot (mostly Clarry in this last dept). Very nice goal from Tracc on the Arc there
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Spoke too soon! Maxy. Crappy effort from Ed also
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Good to see Gawny learned from his previous deep defending effort and punched instead of trying to mark on the last line
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Yep especially in our forward half. Kozzie & Spargod rarely sighted. Both having a mare need to get VERY busy in the second half.
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May simply has to stay on Tex. He's their outlet kick down the line and one of the best kicks coming inside 50. Petty on him is gifting them an opportunity to stay in it and/or win the match.
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Will come down to one of Weid or BB. Can't see both if all of Tmac, LJ & Big M are in. We only saw them both in last week as LJ was out. You can't afford to have 4 talls inside 50, two of which bring very little closing speed/pressure on their opponent when we lose possession, one has almost no impact at ground level and one of them has zero impact as a relief ruck and gets easily pushed off the ball. Balance is critical in a good team and so far we've had it in spades. Stick to the winning formula i say.
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Thanks Biff. I heard this announced by Kane post 10am news and then missed due to work comittments. Had trouble finding it on the SEN app.
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58er there's more than half a season to go! On Gus i agree with much of what you have highlighted. However, does he offer enough going the other way offensively with ball in hand i wonder? That would be my only issue at this stage but it's only a question i'm putting out there. Not saying he doesn't either but that's a perception i have at times when observing.
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Was thinking same watching the VFL last night Mr Leg. I don't mind it at all. Has shown some genuine class and toe in patches. Hopefully he's on our radar for consideration. My only issue on the other wing (assuming that's what he might be considered for) is his height? Not sure where he's at there.
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I'm not sure how you arrived at some of these view points ATBG. There isn't that much difference in their career accuracy at goal. BB 59.8% Weid 52.9% Stats aren't everything but they are a rough guide given enough matches to compare. To date, in pretty much every career average, BB either has the Weid well and truly covered or marginally ahead. Including... ? Marks inside 50... 2.3 to 1.4 ? Inside 50 Ground Ball Gets...1.3 to 0.8 ?Ground Ball Gets ... 2.5 to 2.3 ? Contested Marks....1.6 to 1.3 ? Marks on a lead ...1.6 to 0.7 ? Shots at goal...3.7 to 1.9 ? One percenters ? Meters Gained ? Contested Possessions ?Uncontested Possessions ?Shots at Goal .... 3.7 to 1.9 ?Goals... 2.2 to 1.0 ?Score involvements ... 5.4 to 3.8 ?Tackles inside 50 ... 0.6 to 0.5 ?Pressure Acts... 7.9 to 6.8 ?Hit outs to advantage ...0.5 to 0.3 There are a few neck and neck results, such as Tackles inside 50 (see above) and goal assists (level pegging). The one area where Weid is ahead... ? Tackles (general) ...1.3 to 1.1 Fair to say Weid would want to get moving from here with some consistent solid performances. https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?playerIds=CD_I291867,CD_I993806&comparisonTab=h2h
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Chandler worked his butt off for that look last week. Ok so it wasn't the greatest entre' we've ever seen but when you're in a position to give a few opportunities to those knocking on the door, replacing a fringe or out-of-form player against an oppo that's not highly rated at present, then i don't mind it. Gives those knocking a bit of a taste and a small window for them see what's required to reach the next level and stay there. Also ensures those above stay on their toes and don't rest easy. Gives others at Casey hope that they might get a look in as well if they persevere and keep pushing hard to improve. While i'm not saying we flirt with multiple changes every week just for experiment sake, the odd minor adjustment when the opportunity allows, should make for a very healthy competitive "winning" culture.
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Surely that rest of the year issue is just a giant speed/agility ladder for the likes of Gawny, BB & LJ. Those three could still train at the G in cricket's off season!
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You must have watched a different game to me RG. I thought both were pretty ordinary in this regard with BB just a smidgen ahead. Barely though.
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Part of.the reason we are winning is we are one of the best pressure teams going around. We.may still win going tall but personally if you do you risk losing a fair chunk of this asset IMV. BB & Weid already bring very little of this at ground level. Experimenting too much might tip us over the edge in coming weeks and the Doggies loom large the week after travelling. As they say..."When you're on a good thing"... Don't flirt with form
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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 9 , 2021 vs 2019 Ed the big mover at the top end this week, leapfrogging Tracc into 4th spot for the season so far. Hunt, Jordan, T-Mac and Rivers also on the move! Clarry still a fair way out in front with Salem & May holding the next two places, both having been there for a few weeks now. Maxy losing a little bit of touch with the top five, dropping three places since reaching his highest No.3 ranking in round six. Of course there are no hit outs to advantage included in his score so one could argue he might be sitting at approx No.3 (and may have been around 2nd/3rd at the end of round 6 also). Interesting to see Chunk & Spargo both on exactly the same average score. Crazy stuff. Player 2021 Score 2021 Rank 2019 Score % Change vs 2019 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019 Clayton Oliver 5.267 1 4.643 13.44 1 0 C Salem 4.386 2 3.658 19.90 3 1 Steven May 4.069 3 2.446 66.35 14 11 Ed Langdon 3.892 4 C Petracca 3.817 5 2.616 45.91 10 5 Max Gawn # 3.586 6 3.256 10.14 4 -2 Jake Lever 3.553 7 2.313 53.61 17 10 James Harmes 3.550 8 3.850 -7.79 2 -6 Jack Viney 3.450 9 3.068 12.45 5 -4 Jayden Hunt 3.041 10 1.958 55.31 22 12 James Jordan 3.011 11 A Brayshaw 2.939 12 2.894 1.55 6 -6 T McDonald # 2.828 13 2.150 31.53 19 6 K Pickett 2.811 14 M Hibberd 2.695 15 2.124 26.88 20 5 Trent Rivers 2.506 16 Luke Jackson # 2.500 17 M Brown* 2.475 18 A Tomlinson 2.475 18 Bayley Fritsch 2.388 20 2.641 -9.58 9 -11 Oskar Baker* 2.325 21 1.714 35.65 29 8 Alex N-Bullen 2.311 22 1.984 16.48 21 -1 Charlie Spargo 2.214 23 1.375 61.02 35 12 Nathan Jones 2.214 23 2.711 -18.33 7 -16 J Melksham 2.170 25 1.931 12.38 23 -2 Tom Sparrow 2.087 26 1.075 94.14 37 11 H Petty 2.017 27 1.905 5.88 24 -3 Neville Jetta 1.888 28 2.264 -16.61 18 -10 Ben Brown # 1.575 29 Sam Weideman*# 0.950 30 1.818 -47.74 27 -3 Kade Chandler* 0.250 31 Average Team Score - Top 22 69.88 59.62 17.19 # Hit outs to advantage not captured * Only played one match not an average score Stats courtesy of footywire.com
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Rnd 9, 2021 MCG - Demons vs Blues Player Score Rank Clayton Oliver 5.275 1 Ed Langdon 4.225 2 Tom McDonald # 4.175 3 Steven May 4.125 4 James Jordon 4.100 5 Christian Salem 3.875 6 Trent Rivers 3.650 7 James Harmes 3.550 8 Christian Petracca 3.500 9 Jake Lever 3.300 10 Angus Brayshaw 3.125 11 Alex N-Bullen 3.075 12 Max Gawn # 3.000 13 Jayden Hunt 2.850 14 Bayley Fritsch 2.725 15 Michael Hibberd 2.525 16 Kysaiah Pickett 2.250 17 Charlie Spargo 2.050 18 Harrison Petty 1.975 19 Ben Brown # 1.475 20 Sam Weideman # 0.950 21 Kade Chandler 0.250 22 Team Score 66.03 Top 6 25.78 Bottom 6 8.95 # Hit outs to advantage not captured Stats courtesy of footywire.com
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Why Oliver is More Dangerous Than You Think
Demon Dynasty replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Ditto on both counts. Will take himself and us to another level if he could finish more often coming inside 50 and shooting at goal. Also would like to see him avoid the blind over head handball backwards pls. Somewhere near a red and blue flashy thing running around forward of the contest would be nice -
I don't think that's what i was suggesting at all but never mind
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Yep it seems that way bin. Sometimes the distance / angle / pressure of the entry doesn't allow a player the luxury of picking and choosing so they're probably going here as their set option but.... Can i take you back to the kick from just on or outside the arc by Harmea last week on the northern flank kicking to the Punt Road end? That kick to me was the ideal placement. About 12 meters out from the boundary pocket but enough space for the big boys to run on to it and hit the contest with Tmac taking a classic pack mark and the angle not so bad . Result....goal. All I'm saying is....surely we can find a better balance when the situation presents? Where we give ourselves the above opportunity or similar (front and square roving off the spillage from such a pack if no one marks) while still having a fair chance of locking it in IF none of the above happens. Let's at least improve our chances of scoring when getting it in there when we can vs hitting that same pocket so often as a default, allowing them to get numbers inside 50 which makes our chances of scoring (especially a.goal) very slim anyway.
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My bad....that's just how it pasted ?
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One interesting post in their post-game thread.. Mate that is exactly what I said to my daughter on the way home from the game. My observations (was seated behind the goals level 1 behind the Carlton Cheer squad): - Melb mids seemed to track the ball and hunt in packs of 4 or 5 putting pressure on us. They would spread hard when they won it. - Their ball movement from Def to Fwd was very slick, ours was scruffy and inefficient. We have to work so hard for our goals, they seemed to do something creative nearly every time they went fwd. - The value of a gun ruckman was on display today. - Crippa just tries to do too much, gets caught too often and turns it over too often. I think he needs to get back to basics. - I saw 6 defenders at their end who looked structured and made our fwds lives hard. Ours were bit all over the shop. Ol mate Plow was bit ordinary at times with his effort and disposal. I'm note sure what to take out of it other than I can see why Melb are 9-0 and we are 3-6. I predicted a 4-5 goal loss and that's what happened.
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Never looked like losing that one. Gritty team effort and we answered all they threw at us. Had it not been for Saad, Cripps & McKay and being a tad top heavy up forward on a wet day (IMHO) i think we probably win that by plenty. What a special first half that was from Tom! However, i reckon the Blues were in the main, better at us with their delivery inside 50 today as well as making space for their forwards to run in to. I feel there's lot's of room for improvement both from a line up / balance point of view, player methods / execution (Clarry & Tracc) and also pressure in terms of recognising when to retain shape in the zone across HB and when to attack the ball carrier coming through the middle (Tracc on at least two occasions which hurt us on the scoreboard both times i think). We also could have pulled the trigger a few times in defence, kicking out from the Punt Road end to a one on one with Ed & Hunt on the Southern wing when well ahead on the scoreboard with plenty of time on the clock. Instead we ignored and played it too safe a little too often, kicking long to a congested well covered Northern wing/boundary or too short to a player hemmed in deep in our 50 on the boundary/back flank northern side. Coming inside 50 we need to clean up delivery and hit the hot zone / higher conversion areas vs the pocket. Looking at Clarry here a bit. Put the opp under more pressure and allow the talls to contest, bring the ball to ground and the smalls to do their work. Instead we far too often hit that pocket and released the pressure valve on the opp's defence IMHO allowing the cavalry to arrive. I know we are looking to lock the ball in our 50 and have repeat entries but with such a tall line up i would hope to give them some more chances to impact by hitting these zones a little more often. Weid & Chandler should be better for the run but from a trust POV a fit Viney (or even Chunk/Melk) & LJ in for Chandler and one of either BB or Weid seems to be a big upgrade. And i'm not convinced with playing both BB & Weid together even on a dry day, but especially in the wet. Onwards to the the City of Churches to take on Tex Dubbo & his mates for a shot at 10 in a row. Go you Mighty Demons!