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BM i would argue, at least until last week when Woe was in the team and in good form and Tomo various weeks before going missing, any forwards, including the smalls have a better chance at finding their mojo at Casey vs the seniors. The difference in terms of speed of ball movement, finish and cohesion between mids & forwards there is chalk and cheese vs the senior team. Ok so it's a rung down and oppo also a fair way off AFL level, but aside from that the service, delivery and methods coming inside 50 are much more conducive to an efficient / functioning forward line with those forwards happy to work hard at honing their craft & skills (at this level) much the beneficiaries. Watching Casey is a joy at the moment. May it continue and if they can hold the core group together, on present form they are a decent chance of going back to back. -
Yep he loves to create a bit of controversy the old Volcano
Seems relevant to post here. Don't shoot the messenger! On a positive note... has Clarry changed stylists? Looks like he's had a bit of trim and starting to get into the swing with a bit of a fade!!?? Noice one Clazza! https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/06/melbournes-mismanagement-of-oliver-injury-labelled-a-disgrace-and-a-debacle/
We can play Grundy as sub. Solves many of these problems and Grundy is still there for if / when Max hits the wall in a match or the FD see he has reached his loads limits etc. Gawn can also start as Sub in matches where his loads might need to be managed and / or the match ups / weather suggest 2 ruckman may not be needed for the entire match. That way you are also conserving Max for the big games / match ups where his influence / output is more critical vs Grundy's.
I'm imagining they would be working on this aspect as well as changing angles before attempting to hit someone up inside on long and / or shorter shallow leads surely Febes. Including timing and the ability of a forward to do this and the mid/hb with ball in hand outside 50 having the patience and ability / willingness to attempt a skilled weighted kick to advantage. Hitting the target imperative as often as possible. Getting the forward mix right (maybe next season!), the above (forward craft/cohesion with mids etc) plus a better return in front of the sticks. That's the last, but seemingly the most elusive, missing piece of this team's puzzle from here.
That should be BB if JVR was playing. Apparently this coaching group is of the belief that a genuine tall CHF is not necessary in the modern game. Either that or they feel our game style has this critical position well & truly covered with our mediums & smalls. And/or Gawn & Grundy. Both of whom are only averaging a goal every other game so far this season. If you are putting one up forward it should be Grundy who is at least a better kick at goal this season running at 66% accuracy vs Max's 39%
Neither of those disposals were effective, one of them resulted in a turnover. Negative 2 meters gained in approx one quarter of time on ground vs the Cats. Obviously has some credits from the coaches viewpoint but i fear they've placed too much faith before form again here. Same as they did vs the Cats.
I agree with this Macca. Much more dare is needed and taking the game on. That will take a major change of message from above though given what we've been witnessing in the last few months. I also think we are somewhat restricted here from a personel perspective in terms of ability to execute switches, 45s and hit ups of leading forwards (if there were more leads forthcoming that is). This is why i have been all for getting new blood into the team like Woe & Howes. While neither are world leaders at passing / hitting up targets they at least are capable of it about 2/3rds of the time and are doing so at Casey on a regular basis. No fear and playing with confidence! Watching Casey's transition off HB, so often they'll look to switch across HB or 45 into the corridor. They also do this as first instinct after exiting forward of the wing. Often hitting a target at the top of the square which then changes/opens the angles coming inside 50 and often opens up the goal face for a genuine long bomb attempt from a high percentage spot. Fpr those who may not habe had the chance of watching Casey's last match.... for a great example of this type of play go to 22:30 in the third quarter. Check out the switch from Schache to Sestan on the middle of the forward square. The rest is poetry, even though it doesn't end in a goal. They will also just take the game on and go straight through the corridor off HB if they see an opening with good use of HB and overlap. For another great example of this go to 7:30 into the third and watch how slick and well drilled this team is. Fabulous ball movement from a number including Steele & Dunstan through the middle ending up with a lovely weighted kick to Schache who goes back and slots the set shot from 40 meters on a slight angle. This is a well oiled & drilled group we are watching who are a good chance of going back to back this season subject to keeping the bulk of their present line up on the park.
Hope the penny is dropping and they aren't under the illusion that it's merely an accuracy issue. If so we're toast and we'll just keep seeing more of the same entries to low percentage areas with the same horrid results where we end up kicking double or triple the amount of points to goals.
At best guess from memory of the last 4 matches.... Approx 60% / 40% Wing / Middle A little more mid time when Jordan & Dunstan were out
He should be in Bing regardless. Our most accurate set shot at goals. Out of our designated forwards he is (on averages)... Top 5 inside 50 for.... Goals (4th) marks (4th behind Fritsch BB & Kozzy), tackles (a bee's whatsit behind ANB in 4th) and one percenters (2nd only behind Petty who i suspect is only ahead due to his time down back...Footywire has designated him as a forward). Surely some of the issues (or THE issue) Goody speaks of can be worked on at senior level and is something that he'll improve in as he goes (gradually). Regardless it / they can also be worked on in the off season. Right now we need to settle this forward line and drill drill drill them into some sort of form and cohesion. The cohesion team work bit up forward wont happen if we are constantly changing the core group! We are 16 rounds in and Goodwin & Co. STILL haven't worked out who is there preferred line up!!????? 8 weeks to go and the clocks ticking. There's no one else to decide upon in terms of talls at Casey bar Schache and he just doesn't look like the better of the two (vs JVR) for mine. Incredible that we are still fluffing around at this stage of the season and in danger if dropping out of the four while we speak. It's not rocket science.... get on with it fellas FCS or we'll be kissing another wasted opportunity / season goodbye!
Wasn't sure where to put this... may have been posted already so mods maybe delete this if you are aware of it elsewhere pls... https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-a-forgotten-forward-can-be-the-missing-piece-to-melbourne-s-premiership-puzzle-20230629-p5dkew.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2PvJel6pXvV7M_IJ5ODG24dk78dOukQUbzsRtn7Q79FLwo26FZN5Uk-fU#Echobox=1688265547
We have struggled to correct and change up many of our forward issues over many moons Brownie. I can't see us coming up with a significant variation to our game style without some major changes to personel. And Goodwin is not one to make many changes from week to week. Tends to revert back to the well with his same old faithfuls. Stranger things have happened but personally i can't see it happening this season i'm afraid.
Smith needs at least another game to see how he goes in good conditions imv RM. Melk the same. Agree re leg speed but very hard for him or anyone (even Fritta/Kozzy) to work their craft when so many just sit back deep and crowd out the 30 meter hot zone. Need to get on their bike. Just need to get the ball in to him quickly in a 1 v 1 a few times out the back. He's in the best form ive seen goal kicking wise Since 2018. He'll get the job done if we can do that half a dozen times or so. Spargo was so far off the pace the last time he played and wasn't that much chop in his Casey appearance. Did ok but nothing that warranted a quick return call up imho. Moniz's game on Sunday was a ripper. Some lovely crumbing, snaps and a long bomb from 45 out. If he rolls that form out again this week they'd be mad not to look at him. Too much faith for too long in some of the senior boys from Goodwin. Need to reward some of the Casey performers more often once they string some form together. Will also keep some of the fringe/out-of-form players upstairs honest & on their toes and or see them back at Casey where they have a bit more time/space to work hard & hopefully find it once again.
Yes forgot about Bowey. Almost our MVP last week 😅 Im not expecting any or many of these to happen W. Just my take of what i feel is the best 22 based on form at both AFL level and Casey (over the last two to three weeks). Fixed.... had to leave Andy out. He's very close though imv. If he kicks 2 or 3 again and plays as a pressure defender inside along with some smarts with ball in hand he needs serious consideration imv. Haven't seen alot from Chandler or Kozzy the last few weeks. Chandler hasn't threaded a goal in 5 weeks. Kozzy playing hollywood footy most of the time other than inside 50 pressure. Jefferson and Howes probably need one more pre-season. Jefferson played his best game for Casey on Sunday. Howes was quite good again but might need a few extra kgs to survive the rigours of AFL for more than a few matches. Same with Jefferson. Dunstan is very cool in a crisis and a beautiful distributor of the ball in traffic by hand. The feet are a 50/50 but he also gets the job done on occasions here as well. Casey are well drilled, more structured, better at ground ball gets, ball movement, finish/connection coming inside 50 and at set shots than the AFL team. Entirely different level of oppo of course but they're so well drilled and everyone plays their role to a T. Like a well oiled machine. Steele & Moose also outstanding against GWS. D Smith pretty darn good...again. If Munro had a few years in him i'd sign him up tomorrow. Would be our equivalent of Libba. Where was Tomo? For anyone who didn't get the chance but wants to see some great examples of ball movement from Casey, you might want to watch the play at the 8 minute mark of the third. And most of the last quarter! Lovely stuff indeed. Woe 2.0 also getting involved in many chains now. Exciting stuff from the kid.
B: Lever, May, Turner (or Howes) HB: Salem, Petty, Rivers C: McVee, Oliver, Langdon HF: Bowey, Brown, Smith F: Pickett, J V Rooyen, Melksham FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Petracca IC: Jordon, Woewodin, Brayshaw, Sparrow SUB: Grundy In: Turner or Howes, Clarry, Jordon, Woewodin, J V Rooyen Out: Harmes, Chandler, Hunter, Grundy, ANB
With respect to Garry's article and the third and fourth passages of play..... It would appear this coaching group or some of them, along with a number of mids / wingers & forwards, are incapable of turning this particular aspect around. Even after seeing it on their review vision from the week before!! Assuming it was shown!!???? Posted this just after the loss to the cats.... Demon Dynasty 12,308 Posted June 22 Would be up there with the worst teams in the AFL in wet weather or slippery conditions. The over use of short dinky handballs to players a foot or two away under pressure instead of the quick kick forward in the wet was astonishingly poor football at this level from Goodwin down, with a few player exceptions. Viney being the main one. Yes i place a large part of the blame here on the coach as he apparently doesn't appear capable of getting this group to change up the way we usually play vs what is needed in wet or slippery conditions. Any team watching us vs the Lions & tonight will figure themselves in with a serious chance of an easy kill if playing us in these conditions bar maybe the bottom two or three. And the bulk of teams would have cleaned the Cats up tonight. We were woeful. Im not a big fan of the dual rucks in inclement weather. I would play one as the sub and just change out if needed at some stage when / if tickets are spent. It robs us of an extra running player on the outside with some skills that can finish our extraction work coming inside 50 and in general play. Our forward craft and mid / forward connection lack of cohesion is still bog ordinary After 1.5 seasons of trying to improve, it continues to be a dog's breakfast (at best). Example... Hunter kicking it to Pickett in a two v one as the FF towards the end there. Hilarious. Such a frustrating team to watch in the wet. And an under performing one (paper vs performance/outcome) imv. The whole coaching crew and the playing group needs to look in the mirror in terms of.... > how poorly we play in wet/slippery conditions > generaly poor forward structure, particularly at CHF as mentioned above. > Still unable to hit targets coming inside very often > All talls playing deep and sitting back when a surge is on, no one leading at the ball carrier.
