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Welcome to Demonland - Picks 18 & 19
While it has been said that the 2021 crop of potential draftees will be stronger than 2020, we need to be mindful that there might be no junior football in 2021 either. Hopefully, that doesn't occur, but we can't deny the possibility. If that were to be the case, the 2021 draft will be a bigger raffle than 2020 because there will be less known about and less exposed form for next year's group than for this year's bunch.
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What they’re saying in Lulie Street
Generally, I agree with the above posts about "buyer beware", the difference (or lack thereof) between mental and other physical injuries and risk management by clubs. However, I can see the AFL seeking to simplify processes to manage concussion and other player welfare issues. I'm not in favour of wholesale change, but I am also not comfortable with case-by-case consdierations without fixed and firm parameters. That gets into the secret herbs and spices territory. Should Collingwood get dispensation for salary cap problems based on the Beams situation (noting that this is just conjecture at this stage on our behalf)? I don't think so. But I do think there is scope for having a discussion about how best to manage all issues associated with players' mental health and concussions.
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What they’re saying in Lulie Street
Thanks. I expected the Dayne Beams debacle would figure highly. In effect, Collingwood might be trying to make "use" of Beams' mental illness (I hope that's the appropriately sensitive term to use) to explain why they have found themselves in this position. If that's correct, I think they might be making an argument with broader application than just themselves. I can see the possibility of a global rule change where players forced out of the game through mental illness or concussion have their payments fully or partially discounted from the salasry cap. That would then make it easier for clubs and players to resolve these forced retirements expediently and without adding to the psychological strain on the players.
- What they’re saying in Lulie Street
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What they’re saying in Lulie Street
Malthouse appeared to alienate a lot of players who left rather than stayed to play under him. Whether it was their choice to leave or whether Malthouse pushed them out, I have no idea. But I agree, once he had the players he wanted and who wanted to be there with him, he got the best from them.
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MFC Trade Summary
My gut feel is that the clubs will all have a pretty good handle on the top 25 players in this year's draft. After all, they've been following the top tier under-age players for more than just the pandemic-affected 2020. After that it will likely be more of a lottery than usual with the later developers falling into this group but in a less well-known order. And I agree that getting two picks "doubles" our chances, although we should also anticipate the possibility that these two picks could still metamorphosise into one top ten pick or something else.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Is this some sort of coded message about his goal kicking run-up?
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What they’re saying in Lulie Street
One thing they all have in common? All assistant coaches to Mick Malthouse. I keep wondering (to be truthful, I believe, although without hard evidence) that Mick Malthouse isn't best known for being a "people-person" either. Of the four, though, I've always thought Buckley shows more empathy than the other three.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Really important to know whether it was used as a verb, gerund or a noun. Makes a big difference as to how I think about this.
- What they’re saying in Lulie Street
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Did Ben Brown do any ruckwork at North? Even just in the forward 50? If not, I assume it will be the same with us and depending on who plays I assume Weideman, Jackson or Tom McDonald will be Max's support. I'm not a fan of Weideman in the ruck. It's not that I don't think he's adequate in the role, but I think he's better remaining in the forward line for the whole game.
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Every Teams Trade Period Ranked
If the lame stream fake AFL hadn't included all the illegal trades, we would have won. Big!
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Are we finished yet?
In normal circumstances I would agree. But this year has been anything but normal and the inability of the AFL to finalise important details such as final list numbers and salary cap could have made clubs hesitant to act. On balance, I think it's fairer to the players - and I think, in this instance, that's more important than the effect on clubs - that there is another opportunity, even if it hasn't yet been announced.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Very good points. The comparisons with Collingwood and Essendon (at least, what we must assume from the scale of their departures) bodes well for future team happiness and cohesion as well as the aim of being attractive to other players wishing to join us.
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Are we finished yet?
There's a small story by Michael Gleeson on the back page of The Age today which includes a suggestion that there might be a second trade period, possibly just for 24 hours, prior to the draft specifically created to overcome the uncertainty of list sizes and the salary cap. The thinking is that some deals that may normally have got done were unable to be completed because of the uncertainty.
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MFC Trade Summary
Tomorrow happens to be McHappy Day (at least, in Victoria). Could that be an omen that Oscar will sign a new contract tomorrow?
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Where does this come from? Is there any evidence that ANB or AvB wanted to leave? Is there any evidence the club had made known that it was prepared to trade ANB or AvB if the right offer came along? Do we know for sure that no other club wanted ANB or AvB?
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
I'd like to say Martin Pike was a "journeyman" but that doesn't seem the right descriptor for a 4x Premiership player.
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New CEO - Gary Pert
Apologies. I wasn't intending to suggest that you were peddling any conspiracies. I know from your posting history that you're far too sensible to fall for that.
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AFL Trade Radio
Struggled most with the punctuation. Can't ever recall placing a possessive apostrophe immediately before a question mark. I think it's right but it looks all wrong.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Did we get Martin Pike from North or was it the other way around?
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New CEO - Gary Pert
Simon Madden is on the Essendon board. It was his ex-Carlton (and for a short while ex-Essendon) brother, Justin, who was the Minister in the Labor Government. But if we want to extend the conspiracy, the Governor, Linda Dessau was also on the Essendon Board.
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New CEO - Gary Pert
...and whose supporters are believed to be consolidated in non-swinging electorates. Nevertheless, I should add that I believe the Vic Government(whoever is in power) will provide funding once we have the right plans in place.
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Josh Mahoney on Trade Radio 12/11/20
Interesting. Essentially said we're not interested in any other players but might participate in further pick swapping/upgrade if the right last-minute deal comes along. Note to self: everyone in AFL lies, so take it with a grain of salt.