Moonshadow

Got to make the finals first...

Take the red n blue glasses off mate. Zac would be best 22 and has 8-10 years of best 22 ahead of him at swans. His high draft pick and the reported 4 year deal is reflective of how he is valued.

Tell that to Hipworth from Brisbane

The more of his face that's covered the better Biffen, regardless of colour

I think Hogan is genuinely better than those three. The problem is that, for various reasons, we are not seeing it and won't for some time. This year has been his annus horribilis. Will we ever see it again?

Can't see it happening Earl. Wishful thinking perhaps. We'll see in a few months

If not Zac, who then? We need a mid with line breaking speed. Outside run

FMD What a loony idea. We have Hogan, TMAC, Watts and a developing Weid. Enough already

You think? Players are often at the club by 8am and don't leave until 5. That's 5 days a week, then there's match day. Not forgetting other club related appearances, marketing promo, and in the case of Jack Watts, saving kittens from busy roads. Point being that fit players don't have a great deal of free time, probably why some tie one on when they do. Smarter players will keep their nose clean and use the chance to set themselves up with a career after footy.

And this deserves a new thread because....? http://demonland.com/forums/topic/42366-drinking-session/

Would've thought if the forecast definitely predicts rain we might bring Jones and Vince in for Hogan and either Trenners or Hannan. If no rain, the Weid is a chance

I think Dusty will get more votes than Danger anyway... ...but not as many as Oliver

OMac

I blame the loss to Norf on Demonland going down

Oliver had all the time in the world in the last qtr as he streamed forward only to be run down unaware from behind. On the replay he took about 8 running steps, quite a long time. I saw 3 Melbourne players within reasonable earshot. Harmes was about 10m away facing him. Why the fk didn't someone scream to him that he was 'hot'?

Hate to say it, but in a year where no team stands out and a top 4 spot could give a club a big chance at a flag...... this might just be the year of the Tiger. God that would make me puke.

"It ruins some lives, enough to matter. Wish we weren't dependent on them. But hey, no one is forcing them and it's legal. It doesn't effect me. If we didn't, someone else would." FMD...

Harmes is an interesting one. He has some attractive skills and can attack the ball well with an angry, confident attitude. But to me there seems to be a frantic element which means he makes poor choices or his disposal lets him down. Lacks composure. Still only 21 and like a lot on our list, less than 50 games. I get the feeling that he (and maybe ANB, JKH, Stretch, etc) could become handy players when they get to the 80-100 game mark. The question is, will the wait be worth it/can we wait that long?

Out: Hogan, Trenners, ANB or Hannan In: Weed/Pedo Jones Vince Send out a telegram to Stretch: "where the [censored] are you?!!"

Week after week of panicked long bombs into the 50. When the [censored] will it stop! Have to sort out the forward structures/patterns and teach guys upfield to look shorter

I agree, but it's also worth remembering that they made a pretty packet by selling them. Their finances are struggling and they may well feel the pressure again to relocate. I applaud their decision to not continue with pokies, wish all clubs could, but similar to the State govt we are addicted to the income stream. AFL would be wise to stop the hollow social justice talk, grow a pair and truly help clubs get away from them. Now that would be a noble legacy for Gill to leave

He's played less than 50 games and is 22 yo. Will be up and down as he develops, but has shown plenty this year. Tracking nicely compared with his bro at same age. Lots of up side

Race to the bottom, more like it.

Got a fair bit of see u next Tuesday about him. Angry little fella

A shoe-in for Lethlean's old position (no, not 'missionary')