nutbean

I have heard of players being duped by opposition mimicking their team mates by yelling out "leave it" or calling out their opponents name to hopefully get a handpass by accident - I have yet to have heard of cheating by impersonating an umpire and I would suspect that if it not illegal that if it did happen it would viewed in a very poor light and action would be taken to rectify the practice.

Umm... this argument is a nonsense. When an umpire calls a player to play on - an opposition player could have also made that call that out as well. Is there a whistle involved in a play on call ? Do you suggest that players ignore these calls ? Every player in the league responds to an umpires call of "play on" ( some better than others) Umpires give frees and stop play by whistles but there are also many calls which are verbal without the whistle and players rightly respond to them. Edit - sorry to be a tad aggressive but I cannot fathom any footballer watcher thinking that footballers do not respond to umpires verbal calls

Simple - if an umpires call can lead to a choice of action by players after the call then it should not be reviewed. The idea that players do not respond to umpires calls is a nonsense. Umpires calls (such as "play on".. or "made an effort .. play on" or "touched play on" are clear and precise - and players absolutely respond to them. You also see players that do not heed umpires calls and get pinged At the Swans game a player had a split second to respond to the umpires call of "not 15..play on" and didn't and got pinged for dropping the ball.

Please....I have watched the replay and the call was so loud and clear that it could only be an umpire - the umpire actually yells out "touched play on" twice whilst the ball is in the air !. Does pose an interesting question - is there a rule regarding players mimicking umpiring calls. You do hear players yell at the umpire "ball" or such like but if any player thought the touched call was anything but an umpires call I'll go he.

Spot on - the touched call the field umpire made may have affected the next play - who is to say that our defenders didn't run the forwards under the incoming ball as they heard the touched call and didn't care if went through the goals because of the touched call.

I think the coaching staff are using him better. Some time deep and some time up the ground. Firstly makes us less predictable and on Hogan himself he is very aerobic so if you sit him deep the whole time and clog up the space in front of him you can put more of plodder on him - but once you move him up the ground you have to adjust your thinking and have someone on him who can cover ground.

Was it a different umpire that called for the review ?

I understand that if a ball is touched on the goal line and there is uncertainty the umpires might review. I even understand that if the umpire DOESN'T call touched off the boot and the ball goes through the goal that they may want to review to see if it is touched. If there is NO call from the umpire you, as a defender or attacker, will not alter your decision as the ball comes towards you. However, yesterday, the umpire clearly called a ball that was kicked at Collingwood's goal "touch play on" loudly and clearly. The ball just flew over the players heads in the goal square and went through and the umpire then asked for a review to see if his call touched call was right. I'm not sure this is not taking a review too far. When the umpire called touched play on as the ball is coming towards the goal , that may change the way defenders/forwards actually go at the ball. I don't think a review in those circumstances should be allowed. A review should not be allowed where the original call of the umpire may impact the way the players attack a contest.

Yes there is a god - and his name is Jesse Hogan - I thought I'd make this argument even more circular than it already is....

I would suggest not when there are two years left on the contract.

start to worry when he orders a soy chai latte..

Again whilst I am in no way shape or form comparing him with Scully but I cannot help but laugh at posters reading Hogan's body language and nuances and suggesting they are indicators. The exact same thing transpired with Voldemort - constant looking at how he acted and reacted. There is no doubt that Scully's demeanor was odd at his time at Melbourne - well so i thought until I heard on SEN talking about the GWS boys after the game in the hotel and they said the banter between all the players was really good except for one T Scully - he stood around by himself like a cardboard cutout So like Nasher, I am going to enjoy watching Hogan play like lots of others in our team and work on the assumption that Hogan will remain a Demon right up until the time he is not - be it 2 years, 5 years or when he retires..

Nah.... more fluff - Roos was sprouting the similar stuff about Frawley and Howe. All coaches say the same thing about their charges. "he's happy here and I think he will stay". The only time I can recall that a club waved the white flag on a player staying or going was the Hawks with Buddy.

Watch after he has handpassed to Salem - you can see that he gets on his bike again... he just loves being involved...

Not a hope in hell. (go team Oliver)

Saw one of my favourite quirky performers on the weekend - Kate Miller Heidke - her husband, Keir Nutall who plays with her is as fine a guitarist as you would see in this country. Kate does heart tearing ballads and then launches into the quirky with her operatic voice and very original and witty lyrics. At one stage she told a story of being dared to put a certain lyric into a song. Kate said she wouldn't tell us what the lyric was but we may notice it. Seamelessly, she managed to use the line " I touch my sausage purse" in the middle of a song. She is very unaffected, funny and ultra talented. On a different note - ( and still quirky) - seeing Steve Poltz tonight at the Caravan Club - if you get a chance to see him - do. He is fabulous.

I'm a fan of "the living end" who started life as a Stray Cats cover band. I especially like when Chris Cheney does his guitar solo standing atop his bass players double bass. Only one thing tops that - I saw the Stray Cats at the forum a few years back and the living end supported them. The living end joined the Cats on stage. Both double bass players stood next to each other, tilting their instructments to about 45 degrees and Cheney and Setzer leaped onto them and proceeded to do an elevated ripping guitar duel.

He just relentlessly hunts the ball. I was amazed at the way he had no hesitation in trying to rip the ball out of the hands of the opponents when the ball was in dispute on the ground. I shudder to think what his strength in contests will be like in 2 or 3 years.

I was thinking the same And I was thinking that Jordie's kicking has improved And I was thinking that Jordie has gained a fair few yards in pace And I was thinking that Jordie has learned to extricate himself from tight contests brilliantly And I was thinking that Jordie has learned how to take a great grab.

i like that - the MRP should change it's acronym to WTFKWTWDIAGC - it is much more accurate....

i like that - the MRP should change it's acronym to WTFKWTWDIAGC - it is much more accurate....

It was Moloney...if it wasn't our team it would have been comedy gold.

I agree but follow the MRP's thinking ( or lack thereof) - the head is the head. Whilst I agree with the general idea that the head must be protected, there must be recognition that the game is physical and played at 100 miles an hour.

It was mentioned before but i love the way he jumps into the tackler so he is elevated and it is impossible to pin his arms and this move means he has taken the tackler out of the play but still allows him to release the handball. He needs to be careful as leaving the ground into an opponent can have repercussions but I have seen him execute this 3 or 4 times and each time he has done it to perfection. I have not necessarily agreed with commentary that big 18 years old's have AFL ready bodies. A large looking frame can mask the reality that they lack the toning and indeed strength of a more mature footballer (as Viney pointed out about Petracca) - apparently no one has told this to Oliver as he already has no issue using his body as a weapon. I think he will be scarily strong with a couple of seasons and preseasons under his belt.

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