nutbean

Let me rephrase - i deplore all violence - i struggle with the futility of the bloodshed and seemingly no solution to a centuries old problem

It was 8 kids - not 8 that had guns. I struggle with the violence and I do think that the response is disproportionate but i will ask the question again. Or rephrase it - do you believe that kids are put in harms way as it makes good publicity and allows people to say such things as "kids being massacred" .

And apparently 52% of Australians do not support the current Gov't. - and yet here we are ... What is apparent ( or maybe apparent) is the 70% of the Palestinian population supports the two state solution. Their political masters do not. So the assertion that there is a push for there to be no state of Israel is absolutely correct.Please tell me how you can reach any other conclusion when Hamas controls Gaza and then read exactly what Hamas's charter is.

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Good luck. There is so much sports science around fitness, recovery, recuperation etc, unless the medico's push the envelope then it is good luck as the human body is an imperfect machine and some players are just injury prone no matter how much you wrap them up in cotton wool

Bernie's bump - all clear.

I don't necessarily agree with your reasoning but we are in violent agreement on the end sum - it is just a matter of who !- I am an "in form" Tyson fan - but we run Jones, Oliver, Salem, Harmes, Viney and Brayshaw through the midfield. To me only Viney, Jones and Oliver are walk up starters. The rest have played at Casey at various stages due to form. To me Tyson is replaced by Salem, Harmes and Brayshaw because all 3 are playing better than Tyson. (actually , and this is pure opinion - On best form Salem and Brayshaw should be certain starters and Harmes has probably been the surprise for me and has been the one to take Tyson's spot due to his good form). I also like the mixing it up by seeing Fritch, ANB and Hogan have a midfield burst from time to time. Keep the opposition guessing.

Weidman does not his deserve spot back unless the player that has replaced him is not firing. I have high hopes for Weidman but I thought that Smith offered more. I know Smith is 27 but a debut of 18 disposals and 5 marks and 5 tackles is a pretty good debut( albeit it was in a team that was in red hot form and demolished and insipid opposition)

Dieter - just a couple of things about your statements that completely lack accuracy. No - the Taliban was not "founded" by the US - if you are saying that they were initially funded and equipped - you would be right No - the US did not have a hand in setting up Al Queda - if you are saying that were initially funded and equipped - you would right No - Israel did not "create" hamas - it was tolerated in the early days as a foil to the PLO. In fact, as reported above, in the early days Hamas was socially and politically active in helping the lot of the Palestinians. Those days are long gone with Hamas more interested in armaments and tunnels. I do not condone the killing of anyone, anywhere but i do need to ask one question - It has been reported that 8 children have been slain in the current border clashes. Why exactly would children be at the border protests ?

An in form Brayshaw is priceless. He is fierce at the player and the ball and usually makes good decisions. He is not overly quick but is quick of mind which compensates. At this best he is a walk up starter.

I really like his off the ball stuff that compliments the goals he is kicking. He blocks, he hassles and he gives them off as well.

Even a clocks right twice a day ( unless it is a 24 hour clock, then it’s once a day ) ...anywho....

I think Tyson is a more than handy footballer and i am excited that we are talking about whether he should be in the team. That means there is real pressure for spots if you dont perform. Gartlett, Hunt, Bugg - footballers who we would have begged to be in our firsts 5 years back now need to fight for their spots and there are many more talented players than have gone past them or their form just doesn’t warrant selection. Even Tyson at his best would be fighting with Harmes for that last spot. This is very healthy.

Tell me who is worse competing for the same spot as he is ? Oliver, Viney, Harmes, Salem, Jones ? To a lesser extent - Lewis and Vince but they rotate through the back flanks which Tyson can't do. Melksham and ANB - rotate forward which again is not Tyson's go. Tyson is only really competing for a spot with the first five mentioned and on current form he would be coming sixth. (excepting Viney who we are desperate to get back in). As before - if they Viney back I suspect Tyson will be the one to make way (unless they pull a left of centre and exit Hannan or Spargo which i couldn't imagine them doing considering we are finally putting some good scores on the board).

I hadn’t seen the game before I read this. I was going to say he did some nice things but he actually did things that are expected of an AFL player. He made about four mistakes which are Tyson like and what cause all the angst on this site. His output was also well down. I can accept Tyson and some of his less skilled moments if he is getting close to 30 touches a week but not when he gets 16. I think more the question is - if Viney was to come back next week who goes. If you believe what was said about the awesome Foursome then the Weid will stay. I would suggest that would leave only Tyson for Viney.

I think there are great parallels to be drawn comparing OMac and the Weid. I do not like gifting games but OMac early in his career was definitely played despite not really having great form to retain his spot. We did not have a better option and we were trying to get games into him. We are seeing the benefits. With the Weid, the only competition for his spot is Pedersen and I have a preference for playing the Weid as I see a much higher upside. I would keep playing the Weid.

For the life of me I cannot understand this reaction. Is it just possible that Hogan was not expecting it ? Did he go down holding his throat and roll around like he had been hit by a Bazooka ? If he overreacted when he went to ground then yes...call him soft...but he got straight back up again. I think I’d prefer to give him the benefit of doubt rather than label him soft because he got pushed in the the throat and went to ground.

You can compare him to Diesel Williams (on his proclivity for handballing) - I don't think anyone ever criticised Williams for over use of handballing. It is all about how effective you are at handballing. Oliver's handball is an absolute offensive weapon and can open up sides by the way he frees up our players. I have no problem with it all.

Denmark wasn't a satellite - that aside, have you read re the King of Denmark and the movement of their Jews - a remarkable story. And yes there are amazing stories of courage, humanity and compassion. I know i was arguing semantics - bottom line form small to large - there are fair to many atrocities that have happened and we don't learn much from history and they continue to happen.

I don't understand the angst over Tyson. His sometimes iffy kicking/disposal and occasional "slow to react" moments are holding him back from being a much better player than he is. His number one talent is getting to where the ball is/getting his hands on the ball. So he is doing a job for us at the moment and if he continues to be solid he will continue to get a game until someone who offers more than him comes along.

Correct - This whole notion ( and I heard Taylor say it on the replay) - "you have to be stronger than that" - such a nonsense. We are guessing as to whether he saw it coming or expected it. Staging to me is rolling around on the ground like you have been shot from incidental contact - or a grossly exaggerated reaction - neither was the case here.

I liked it...

i suggested the same thing but the admin is a spud.

I guess for me the distinction has been and will be that as bad as ALL atrocities are, nearly all the terrorists mindset is that there is a "peaceful" end goal - if you remove the offending race/colour/religion/creed/government from a limited area then the goal is accomplished - Hezbollah - removal of Jews from Israel, IRA - Brits out of Ireland, ANC, Irgun, and countless more etc etc. The Nazi's pressured their allies to give up their Jews for extermination in lands they had no interest in occupying or controlling. The Nazi's pressured the Japanese to hand over the Jews in Shanghai ( which they did not do) and pressured the Italians to hand over their Jews in Italy - which they did do. The also made their satellite states hand over their Jews for extermination.