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Will definitely be interesting to see how this all plays out now. I would be very annoyed with the club if they aren't starting proceedings with talking to his management. If we ca find a way to get him passed GC it would be a great get.

I think it's a quote from GC themselves to say they are playing hardball.

I guess that's down to Martin himself, if he speaks to GC and they say they will 100% redraft him then he might just say "well fine let's just do the contract now then".

Definitely gotta play hardball on this pick, and dropped some very pointed hints that we may nominate Green to really make them worried.

Interesting, I wonder if this was another deal with the players in the CBA. Seems very lopsided on favouring the player on his desires when the club that is losing the player should have the bargaining chips to ensure they get fair compensation.

Given the lateness of how things are going and that we haven't heard any players being mentioned in potential trades I can't see a trade involving players happening. I'd love us to pick up another player that walks into our starting 18 but it just seems unlikely now.

This is very true (and I'm still filthy the club didn't draft Ball), but Nick Stevens is a prime example of a player who the two clubs couldn't satisfy a deal (Port holding firm against the Pies) and he was picked up by the Blues.

Dogs did very well out of this deal IMO.

I would love it if somehow it ended back with us! ?

Hopefully the Martin deal will fall through (unlikely though). But hey who knows in this crazy world of ours.

I won't so much be livid but I do want a player so if that falls through then we should be making them bend over for some other picks. Say 2020 2nd rounder as well.

Darwin was always the game that the members hated, the players always seemed to look flat the following week. Keeping the Alice game means we still have an NT presence which I think is a positive, perhaps we’ll still do a Darwin pre-season game. Positive move for me and it also shows that they have listened to the members. If we really are going to get back into the contenders list then getting a home game back will help.

I’d be trying to squeeze another pick out of them, say a late 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder (not sure what they have left).

I was thinking that as well but we had the room for Elliot, why not Papley?

Especially since GWS said they weren’t going to give him up cheaply like they did with old $culldog. I don’t know how the Hawks do it, is their negotiator a Jedi or something!?

It’s a very bold play, basically backing ourselves in to be back in the top 8. I would’ve liked a later pick back just to have as a little bit of currency at the end of the draft. But I’ll say this, we aren’t playing a safe option. We are going in saying next year that will be a late first found pick.

Does make you wonder, so many other players out there clubs are taking shots on but Jenkins who has been a match winner in the past is now not event worth taking a cheap shot on.

Sad that if he is good enough he won’t be following in his dad’s original footsteps. No doubt the Wiz played his best footy here but I’m 99% sure he ended up playing more at Freo in the end. He’s a WA kid so it’s understandable that he’d have a strong desire to remain there. Sucks but there ya go, could be that Jeff is also trying to create an almost bidding war between the Dees and Freo for him to give him a greater opportunity at getting onto an AFL list.

Yep true, best 22 is a bit vague. I guess where I’m coming from with saying that is that it might be a 19-20 year old who’s on the up and border of being a walk up but has the upside to expect to jump almost straight in. But equally I see what you’re saying and a playing of Tomlinson/Langdon’s standing, that would walk into our top 15 players, would be of more value to us right now. Depends on needs though, if we’re getting a younger developing player that has the attributes we’re after (and the talent) then is he worth more than say a 24-26 year old who has attributes that we’re not as desperate for?

My thoughts are if we’re splitting the pick then I’d look for a return of a top 10-15 pick and a player that is either walk up best 22 or bloody close and on the up (preferably will skill and pace in the package). Going to the draft with two lower first round picks is a lottery whereas pick 3 (while still a bit of a lottery) is giving us the 3rd crack at the best talent.

I’d say very few; Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Geelong, and GWS are the only ones that spring to mind. I don’t think either of the Perth clubs train at the Perth Stadium, likewise for the Adelaide Oval. Although I don’t think this is the topic of the thread, in terms of making the G more of a home I really think we should’ve pushed for a social club outside of the MCC area. Perhaps it would be a flexible social club for the home teams game, and each club gives it its own name for their match days. Given the Great Southern Stand is getting a refurb I’d like us to move our shop into the upper part of the ground. It honestly feels like it’s deliberately hidden away down in the bowels of the G.

Regardless of his injury woes (and other issues) I’d take him and back us in to be able to manage him. I agree that we have been the same club, we went against that brain for a short period taking Jurrah and Aussie, while they weren’t long term success stories imagine if we had a Liam Jurrah type now?

Fair call Yoko, and credit to the club they chased Elliot to fill the forward role so they are at least trying something (I was concerned last year when we traded Jesse out but seemed content with our remaining forwards). There’s plenty of time remaining so hopefully we will be able to improve the forward line, you have stated in another thread it’s something we’re pursuing.

Unless we’ve identified someone in the draft we like for a small/pressure forward position I would be extremely disappointed if we came away from the trade period without having filled that (so clearly) vacant spot in the team.