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Indeed. We have struggled pre and post bye since burgess was made high performance manager (well, from 2021 - we didn't get a proper bye in 2020 because of covid) 2021: post bye we could only manage 68 points in a scrappy 11 point win over an average bombers side. In the lead up to the bye we had two 'uncharacteristic defeats' in our previous four matches. 2022: post bye, we came out running on top of the ground, and in a shock result flogged the lions by 62 points at the gabba. It was a shock because prior to the bye we had been in terrible form, losing 3 on the trot (having won our first 10 games) - freo flogged us at the G by 38 points, the swans rolled us the g and we could only manage 56 points against a very average pies team, who won by 26. 2023: post bye, in a super scrappy match, we led the cats by 7 points at 3 quarter time (6.11 to 5.10), but stopped to a walk in the last quarter and gave up 6 goals to go down by 11 points. In the four pre bye games we lost to Port at AO (but played well), lost, again, to freo at the g, had a scrappy win over the blues (who were 15th at that point) and a good win over the pies. 2024: after our first bye we we were woeful in the first half, and not much better in the second, in a scrappy win over the tigers. After our second bye, we again stopped to a walk in the last quarter and were lucky to hold off the lowly roos. In the 3 pre bye games, we played pretty well in our win over the saints, we were woeful against freo and better than the scoreline suggests against the pies, but still very scrappy. For context, it's important to note that in spite of (arguably BECAUSE of ) of those performances we finished top 4 in 2021, 22 and 23.

They clearly hope so. Same goes for petty. That's to say both players had severely interrupted preseasons. And they have made the decision to try and get them somewhere near optimal fitness come finals by playing them in the ones. Risky move, in so far as we have two underdone players in the 22. But they obviously think this approach is better than playing them at Casey. Petty was moving the best he has foe ages, so hopefully we're starting to see the results.

Many Demonland posters are too negative and should drink some concrete and harden up.

Awesome vision. Yze seems a genuinely good bloke. I loved Brown dog's expression too. Sick with nerves. I could relate.

Max gawn about to be interviewed on abc radio.

Thank God.

Huh? No, I'm asking where is the advice, that I received, for the posters pouring scorn on the club to just 'enjoy the win' and not create bad vibes in a post match thread. Of a game we won.

Are you being serious? Playing the man? You just accused me of relying on stats and not watching the game. That's not playing the man? Give me a spell It's been a very long time since stats were not used by coaches to help understand the game. Hell, AFL clubs employees full time stats analysts. Ours, like at other clubs, sits on the interchange bench and feeds info direct to the coach the whole game. The players have a screen in front of them with key data, eg pressure rating. The players are advised at the breaks of key data, eg time in forward half, contested possessions etc I watch the game pearl. Live at the ground when we play in Melbourne, then on replay. I also analyse stats post game. Helps me understand and contextualise what I've watched. Others may not. And just 'trust' their eyes. Each to their own.

How old is your coach?

Unless his classmates are Demonland posters for whom a win is still a loss.

Apply Occam's razor. Why would so many players have such low TOG post bye? Why would we stop to a walk in the last quarter (and struggle in the 2nd quarter) after a bye? Why have we generally struggled around the bye period and post bye since burgess became high performance manager (with Selwyn following a similar model)? Why are there so many strange results around this period every year? (eg lions flogging port by 80 points at AO, dogs flogging freo by 70 points - after having beem flogged by the lions the previous week - roos going down to the pies by a point, the suns only managing 48 points against the saints under the docklands roof, the blues flogging the cats etc etc) Why did we look so flat and have such poor skills in our win over the tigers after our first bye this season? Now, there is likely to be multiple factors. But a key one is almost certainly that clubs, and in particular rhe dees, use byes to increase the intensity of their anaerobic and aerobic training. Which impacts their post bye performance because they are fatigued. It is worth noting that after the pies game the players got their break straight after the game and then came back and trained for the roos game. If they wanted to maximise freshness for this game they would have trained and then rested. They took the same approach in our first bye period. And came out flat against the tigers. It's also worth noting that arguably our best performance of the year came in the second game after a bye - our win over the cats. A six day break into Friday night's game against the lions means they are likely to have a light week on the track. And so will be fresh and ready to roll. Winning will be a tall order (when was the last time we were $4.55 to win a game?) but I suspect the dees will surprise a few people next Friday night.

Personally, I find it ironic. I think it was after the hawks win, my first post game post praised the team, but also referenced the haters on this site. @Moonshadow was quick to call me out and give me some advice to just enjoy the win, allow others to do so too and not create bad vibes. Plenty liked the advice. Well, we won last night. I might have missed it, but I don't recall reading a post from @Moonshadow imploring the many haters pouring scorn on us post game to enjoy this win and not create bad vibes.

I met a mate and his young son after the game and walked into town with them. The young fella, decked out in his signed Steve May jumper, was [censored] a hoop. Loving life, kicking his footy, talking about the game and loving his team. Wise beyond his years, he knows you celebrate and enjoy the wins when they come.

This x 1000. Bank the four points and get set for the lions. Go redlegs.

Gee, I wonder.

A good reminder of one thing we call agree on - the ladder doesn't lie.

Which is why I don't bet on dees games.

'Tis the season for funky results.

The roos' pressure and contest has been good, but they lack the fitness to maintain it for four quarters. I doubt we'll be fully wound up, but the roos are coming of a six day break and we're coming off a bye. I think the roos will either come out flat, or come up out with good intensity but fade. Dees by 43 points.

Roll up, Roll up to the Can't Win Demonland Cup. Lose and all the doom spiral predictions are proven correct. Win by anything less than 124 points and all the doom spiral predictions are proven correct.

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With his selection decisions, Goody's a maverick.

That's better. $50 - the 2021 didn't actually happen; like the moon landing it was staged

Very brave punting right there - a thousand hypothetical dollars. Why not a million! Which, by the by, is why the betting market is a more reliable measure of probable outcomes than tips and predictions by media or fans. Punyers putting their hard earned money where their mouth is. Real money. We are currently $1.17 to beat the roos. Of course those odds do not imply a 100% probability of winning ($1.00 = 100% probability). And of course, we might lose. We were a similar price against the Eagles for example. But the bookies, who are not keen on losing money and minimise the risk of doing so by being good at pricing probability, set a very short opening price and the market (ie punters) agree with that assessment, hence the current price (by the by I expect that price to drift to something like 1.25 or 1.30, so roos are pretty good value atm. The 32 point line is even better value).

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