binman

What i really want is an option to listen to a watch a game with with no commentator feed, but still have the crowd noise and umpires mics feed. That would be perfect - and i assume easy enough to do given they are just different feeds into mixer. it's not even radical idea. It would be much more like going to the footy, where i can't imagine listening to a radio call while watching live.

You couldn't write this stuff. Unless you are the herald sun. Just jumped from this thread to the Hun ans read this headline https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/top-50-afl-media-performers-see-who-made-the-2021-list/news-story/7bcc9f26b878586a94d361d21a360d4d

What about his the 'dees need two of tbe next 3 goals' WTF

In all seriousness, one of the unintended, really positive, consequences of having to play the GF at Optus is that for this group of players heading across to play the Eagles and Freo will be a complete joy and a trip they will look forward to, not far. Imagine the vibe and the buzz of playing on the ground where you had beaten West Coast late in the season, trounced the Cats in a prelim then experienced the ultimate football dream in winning a grand final. Bliss And the booing? Well for one, that may well feel juts like a curio to players now - bring it on. And two we might well have more dees fans in WA now - even if it is freo fans supporting us against the Eagles and vice versa.

That worries me. When we win the flag next year it will always have an asterix given only 16 teams played.

One million percent. I said before his first game in for Tomlinson that we would lose nothing with petty, and perhaps might even be better off. And predicted he will be a future AA defender. Nothing I saw since replacing has led me to doubt those predictions. Not sure where that leaves Tomlinson. But an advantage he has is his versatility

I have heard from a reliable source they are not reviewing the 2021 prelim either

And Darcy will be the MC

It has binman written on it?

Me too actually. Not a huge fan of night games. Hard to get a park around the G! And public transport is a touch more feral at 11:30pm on a Friday night than Sunday lunchtime

Swings and roundabouts

What no more mid winter 3:15pm starts at a frigid MCG? What will I do with myself? Maybe watch the replay of our prime time game.

Agree. I rewatched the hell and back 5 part video series the other day/ its almost series about Burgo as it's key focus is preseason training. The thing that jumped out is the psychological component - being the fittest list is the goal (and you'd have to say a goal met), but just as important, perhaps more so, is that the players BELIEVE they are the fittest list. Since that time, including before the GF and after it, i have heard coaches, players, the CEO - and even fans - reiterate that we are the fittest ream, or variations on this theme - eg we were confident we would be fresher in the second half, we finish strongly, we've done the work etc etc. The other thing about Burgo is how much the players love and trust him. And i can see why. He is all in. The Hell and back videos commence in 2019 at the start of the 2020 preseason, which is when Burgo came on board. Right from the get go his language is all we and us - even when talking about previous years. Total buy in and collective goal setting. Inspirational. The other thing i reckon is relevant about Burgo is i don't think it is any coincidence the coaching staff (and even perty) look super, super fit. All in.

I'll add a couple. Two of his first three kicks were turnovers. The first went straight to Salem. The resulting chain of possessions ended in a goal. Later in the first, he played on from a kick out and under no pressure missed a 20 metre kick to bailey. Tracc swooped and they were very lucky not concede a goal. With 5 mins to go in the second, he turned another kick over on the 50 metre arc and was very fortunate nibbler just missed the resulting shot at goal. And forget his second half.

Sure, but why do you think they allowed Daniel so much rope given that knowledge? We all see different things and having watched the game x 5 - and specifically paying attention to Daniel, my assessment is he was not particularly damaging. And his numbers back that assessment up. Two score involvements - one in each half? Please. The issue was he had 28 possessions in the first half, which points to a structural problem rather than a Daniel problem. Specifically we did not press up hard enough in the first half, particularly in the second quarter when our intensity was way off and we allowed him, and others, way too much time and space. Wasn't really and issue in the first because we dominated. Most decidedly was in the second. Which is exactly what happened in the practice game. But not in round 11 when we were at full intensity and were desperate to win. Have a squiz at AFLStats Pro and watch all of his involvements (the extended option). Provides a very clear picture of his game. Lots of cheapies as loose man down back. And early doors, when the heat was on, had a number of telling changers.

Great call. Over the journey I have been a big critic of the club's coms and fan engagement - and in particular the lack of sort of content you note. But huge credit where it is due - they have been terrific this season, particularly the last third of it and post grand final. Brilliant. And i'll bet London to a brick that the traffic to the MFC has had huge spike - which is awesome for the sponsors. By the round one 2022, the All the GF goals video will have been watched more often than the Squid Game and Haynes paints will be synonymous with perfection.

Ducks and drakes by Goody. Was average in the first and had a good second quarter. But didn't hurt us. The Bont and Treloar did. Daniel didn't Instructive they didn't bother shutting down Daniel in the first half, but chose to put time into Macrae who averages mid 30s, but in the biggest game of the year could only manage 25 possessions.

Agree x 3

Agree. Which is i suspect why we didn't bother putting much work into him in the first half - he doesn't hurt. He did hurt us in the round 19 game, but in large part becuase they let him be the player on the outside of stoppages to feed to. Whilst not locking down on him hard in the first half of the GF they did stop that play. I find it fascinating they didn't bother doing so in the round 19 game. That's another tactical win to Goody over the tactical savant. And agree on the that handball receive from Martin. A channel 7 commentator (hodge?) bagged martin for that stuff up, but that's harsh on him i reckon as handing off to Daniel is a go to play. But as you say why he is asking for it deep in the pocket when we had set up our high press and there was nothing but congestion ahead of him. Stupid. Much better for Martin to slow play up (the last thing they needed at that point was pace on the game), allow their bigs to set up outside 50 on the boundary line and kick down the line and long to a contest.

Good point. He was brilliant wasn't he. And unlike Daniel, almost every possession he had was damaging. A star

For me a momentum shift of the game was when he asked for the ball from Martin (I think it was) and shanked the kick which ended in Brayshaw’s goal. Agree Up until that point he’d been almost as clean as Salem and was providing a really important springboard for them off HB. Disagree When i watched the replay for the third time i noted his possessions - very few of his first half possessions were damaging; by my count two, maybe three tops - one was the kick to English on 50 when he out marked Petty By my count he only had one score involvement in the first half (IIRC the Bont goal set up by Shache) - the stats showed he only had 2 score involvements and no score assists for the game He had 5 inside 50s for the game (one being the aforementioned kick to English on 50, so a very shallow entry) And he went at a pretty average 67% disposal efficiency for the game (noting 75% of his total possessions came in the first half ) In terms of DE it is also worth noting he took five kick outs ie kicks under no pressure (one of which he butchered) He did have 631 meters gained, and most (but not all) would have been in the first half, but as noted he had five kick outs which pads the meters gained stat (as an example May had 363 metres gained, despite barely leaving the dogs defensive inside 50 arc - we only had six kick outs and May maybe had four of them?) To be fair Daniels did have a game high 10 intercepts (to Salem's six), which is impressive I don't know the first half, second half split but for the match Salem had: 630 metres gained (no kick outs, i think), One goal assist (first half - he passed to tracc to set up the the first goal of the match) Eight score involvements (i reckon half of them in the first quarter), Seven inside 50s (again maybe half of them in the first quarter) And a crazy good 96.3% disposal efficiency He had an awesome first half Disagree - see above But faded to nothing after Brayshaw’s goal Agree

Yeah i'm probably being a bit harsh on Daniels. Totally agree he did the right thing going to Oliver. And yes he forced the handball. It just seemed a bit of a half hearted effort - maybe a bit more intensity and the handball doesn't hit its target. On Daniels, i think he has escaped a fair bit of scrutiny. Can't believe he got a norm smith vote. He had a lot of possessions in the first half when we elected not to lock down on him, but very few of them were damaging. Compare and contrast to Salem. And then in the second half, when we did lock down on him (Sparrow played a big role with this - but i think also Nibbler and Harmes at times too) he had bugger all possessions and was defensively poor. Sparrow ran off him and he won few contested balls. And he asked for a cheapie handball deep in their defensive pocket, and shanked his attempt at clearing the ball, leading to the Gus goal. He looked like he ran out puff to me. I suspect they were happy for him to run around in the first half picking up easy kicks, safe in the knowledge he would blow up in the second half, with the plan to tighten up on him in the second half and exploit his defensive weaknesses.

Not thst each of the third quarter goals is seared in my memory or anything - but speaking of the Oliver handball, a weird part of that goal was Daniels went towards Oliver, but Oliver released it before he got there. Instead of turning and following the ball, Daniels elected to continue on bump Oliver, though with no force. It looked like he was sheparding oliver. Instructive because, either he wasn't desperate to track the ball, or he wanted it to look like he was competing still or he was completely rattled.

5 replays?

A question. Our first goal, tracc's 60 metre bullet of NO steps. I can't for the life of me work out if he marked that ball or got in the half volley. To the naked eye, and even on replay, he marks it. At least to my doddgy eyes. If he marked it, remarkable that he chose to immediately play on and go for goal, given the distance, the fact he didn't have any run up and also had to kick over a dogs players (well around him sort of). He didn't give the umpire any chance to blow the whistle to indicate mark, such was the speed he got it to boot. But i have read suggestions it was a half volley. If so, incredible presence of mind to immediately kick it. Either way, a truly remarkable goal that has sot of been lost in the tidal wave of crazy good goals in the third and last quarter. Mark or half volley?