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Totally agree. Jackson was out of our control, but nonetheless left a huge hole in terms of the need for a second ruck. I was really concerned we would not be able to fill that hole given the paucity of such players - in a general sense and also specifically at tgis point in time. To snare a ready to go ruck of Grundy's talent was an incredible outcome. We were crying out for an outside runner with above average kicking skills and hunter ticks that box. And it's brilliant that the pies and dogs have to contribute to Grundy and hunter's salaries. Hard to argue hunter is not an upgrade on Hunt, not that the two were nessasaily linked I guess. I agree Schache is an upgrade, albeit just, on weed. And Shache won't be asked to play a role he is not suited for - which to be fair to weed, he was. And as you say the draft picks give us something to negotiate with. By any measure that is a fantastic trade period. Kudos to lamb and his team (who by the by were super proactive with grundy).

Cool that he has his own signature tune, though Aldous got the lyrics wrong a bit. 'He's a Hunter, and a good man, be brave when he brings nothing home', should have been: "He's a Hunter, and a good man, be brave when he brings no goals at home'

Yes.

The punchline just landed.

Free from bevos ire, sung to the tune of free from desire would be better trolling

Apparenty his full name is Josh Oscar Alex Sam Schache.

Did you confirm they had to have any liquid in the stubbies? If not give him a slab of your empties.

I have always rated Schache

That is legitimately funny. Kudos GNF

Back in the day, my ability to get nicotine from a durry into my lungs was elite.

Strawbs was a bloody good ruck man. Very underrated - perhaps because he looked a little ungainly. But in many ways he was ahead of his time - like Maxy, very tall but super athletic. And smart - he had the knack of all really good footballers - he got to the right spots

I might have missed it, but what is the Pies rationale for trading Grundy? Do the pies think he doesn't suit how they want to play or is it as simple as wanting to get his salary off the books?

Agree. Hard to split them, but neither are ever going to be one on one beasts so the fact that Schache is more mobile and athletic means he is can probably be used in more roles (though Weed can ruck) which gives him an edge over Weed. And i like the fact Schache is a left footer

Mitchell putting his stamp in the club

Good points. And totally agree with you and deanox. His best position is a true lead from the goal square full forward. I posted something similar a few months back. I can't recall who it was, but another poster replied and made a good point that the way footy is now he's not going to get space or leading lanes at any club. But with our game style he's got no hope of getting space. Whatever happens for him, I hope he makes it.

So people pick and choose their angst? Weed is a good bloke so he gets a pass? Wattsy was a dee AND a top bloke. Didn't stop him copping a fair bit of vitriol on this forum. Likewise col Sylvia. There are any number of other examples over the ladt decade. Again, I'm glad Weed didn't cop much heat. But I'm not sure why you're surprised that I'm surprised he didn't.

All fair points. But in terms of being surprised, I have been posting on dl for over 10 years now, and I can think of quite a few players who have not been afforded the same respect. Melksham is just one recent example.

It doesn't. I wasn't suggesting people should be disparaging. I certainly haven't. Perhaps I should have said I'm pleasantly surprised there hadn't been much angst towards him.

Unfortunately for Sam this is reality. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention on Demonland, or indeed more broadly. Bottom line we absolutely desperate for a second tall forward. We had one in Weed, who by the by was a top 10 draft pick, and decided not to use him. I'm sure Goody was hugely frustrated that Weed wasn't up for the job, and as i say i'm surprised there hasn't been more angst towards Sam for not stepping up when he needed.

Best case scenario Jackson stays. But now that's not the case, there is no question that him leaving relieves salary cap pressure. There's no way we would have paid him a million a year, but we would have had to pay overs for a few seasons. He won't hit peak until he's mid twenties, but we would have had to pay peak wages. And freo are having to pay way overs for the next couple of years.

Which club are you referring to?

Luke who?

Bwaahhhhhhh, i want a mega deal

Yeah, nah

I don't like smoking Bruce or Hunter - bit harsh.