DEE fence

Kozzie even shares with his mate who doesn't have a stat

No, love him dearly, but Jeff White was a match winner too, Stynes etc, Gawn still has work to do, would be totally happy if I have to change opinion in 5 years.

I dearly love this man, and wanted him as captain for a period, but seriously the wing would be a disaster, his kicking is not up to it. As a forward there was no complication for him, thump it between the big sticks. Personally (again from the man crush) I choose to believe ankle/foot mobility issues were behind his putrid form last year. I also think his bulking up to look like thor didn't work out particularly well, pretty much the same as when James Hard came back from injury looking like a NFL wide receiver. Now that these follies and injuries are attended to, I am hoping for an Indian summer for one of the most dignified guys to pull on our jumper. Just not on the wing. 

Obviously didn’t know that bit

Listened to the show yesterday while driving around Cyprus of all places, thanks fellas was most appreciated, thought JT was very forthright, would love to sit with him during a game and hear how he sees things, would be quite the education. Was it just me or did he give the impression of being most interested in Taj over White and Farmer?

On 12/14/2020 at 7:07 AM, adonski said:

Does he lurk Demonland for advice on players? If not, why not? 

Gold

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

 salient reasoning from all around him, including fans and members.

 

No offence but this a mighty long bow!

Reminds me of the way Powell fitted in, really made a difference in a few line games, and John Henry style runner (will break his own heart) with his effort.

On 11/2/2020 at 9:04 AM, Wiseblood said:

I also don't think he's been the same player since he knocked himself out running into Sam Jacobs.  He was fantastic for us prior to that, and he's never quite hit the same heights since.

No idea if there is any correlation, but it's just a thought.

always thought the same, he was fearless despite being lighter than my dish cloth

46 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Scott Thompson wasn’t a trade we wanted.

Neale Daniher and Chris Fagan flew to Adelaide (prior to the trade) to attempt to convince Thompson to stay with the Dees - but they didn’t ultimately convince him to remain at the club.

I think we then traded pick 12 to the Cats for Brent Moloney, who played many years for us (including being VC), so it was hardly a bust.

In fact, in the circumstances, it was actually the opposite.

In my view, the Woewodin trade was one of the worst (it just ruined the club for a whole year and we lost something intangible from it with no commensurate benefit), as was letting Stephen Powell, Darren Jolly, Stef Martin and Jarred Rivers go for nothing (or next to nothing). And probably Brent Moloney too - thanks Mark Neeld. Acquiring that dude was solid gold for the club.

Jeff Garlett was the biggest gift we’ve ever received. Thanks Mick.

Bernie Vince, Jake Melksham, Michael Hibberd, Stephen May, Daniel Cross and Ed Langdon have been the most astute trades in recent years.

Let’s not go into our draft mistakes though - that’s where the real mistakes have been made and the depression really kicks in.

 

Fair summary 

My mark against is the way he played in his final season for us, I had always loved him, BUT he mailed it in that final season, and squibbed it on multiple occasions. Was our best FB in my years of supporting the club, hopefully May, sets a better standard.

Edit. Compare to the way Dangerfield tore it up at Adelaide, there was a respectable way to leave a club.

34 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of ****wits. Worst club in the history of mankind. It’s beautiful.

I think you are channeling a little too much Ghandi, turn up the volume, and you capture it perfectly. Waves of pleasure at how they are going. I actually want Joe to stay though, clog up a spot and burn their cash

Dr D, just like all the other JW threads this has turned into merde, bump one of them (that are not locked), this thread was about wishing a bloke good luck and farewell, show some class.

Looking forward to the Open Mike, I was amazed he survived the Neeld era. While he enjoys his fun, he always showed levels of class and respect in his dealings with fans that was 1st class. 

For mine, at the right club, he would have been a mega star, we were not the right club to get the best out of him. 

Travel well Jack.

5 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

make it clear that you are referring to Carmichael and not Jayden 

fixed

My mail is this is not a story about 'booze', lets give it 24 hours before we assemble the bonfire, get some facts, the guy has been getting his running going again, has been a long way off sustaining his high intensity running and you would have to think with a  preseason his numbers could be good. All season he did not breakdown or re injure himself. And if this incident does resolve around getting a bigger car and a car seat for a kid, while STUPID, is not the end of the world. Wasn't like he was doing lines with  Karmichael Hunt.

I haven't seen any update to this https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/09/02/the-one-issue-the-afl-has-neglected/

Anyone know more?

Empty, so empty, at work and logged on to see Freo a kick away at half time. It is going to take more than a few videos to get me excited about 2021.

I just don't think people are valuing his hardness at the ball and the ferocity he brings, that is worth more. I don't care about his name, or his heritage, it is his attack on the football, and so he is not a superstar with his DE, I can live with because the pressure he brings makes up that difference. And it is far from the worst over the season. I just cannot stand our limp efforts, he might get beaten occasionally but he never gives up.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/09/10/report-geelong-planning-free-agency-move-for-former-melbourne-co-captain/

Would fair dinkum lose my merde with the club. 

Has bled for the club, change Goodwin before this guy. My rage would be huge.

2 hours ago, A F said:

I don't mind the set up mate, but Richo's history with list management is pretty poor IMO. Ratten did more in one off season to fix their problems than Richo did in many years IMV. But I like him as the GM, I just wonder about that bit.

Your point is fair, he didn't get the cattle right at StK.  

My main point is Goodwin has had more plays than 2 at the back of the square, he just hasn't got the players to execute. To be fair he's made them tough, it is not like we are 'bruise free' or anything. But for some reason he's never been able to get them doing any other party tricks. In some ways he's more FIGJAM than Buckley. Too slow to react to what is not working on game day. I'm now of the opinion he still thinks more like a player playing than a coach mentoring. He hasn't properly transitioned, you can see he is a 'Captain', but tactical coach no. Not sure if he is too close to the players but whatever, it isn't working, he's no Neeld but thanks anyway, no hard feelings.

We need a new coach, we don't have or need another rebuild, right now it is between the ears with this lot. Some minor tweaking (still on outside run)

Key:

'- core list, has skills' = solid 'B' player, not a world beater but reliable part of the squad that fills a role.

'- B+F placing' = one of our best, not for trade.

'- future' = young and developing player, not enough evidence to make a serious call on unrealized potential.

'- we need a settled defense' = I actually think a settled back six is a key to us moving forward, very reluctant to play to much with what was a a good effort from this line all year.

'- see what a new coach can do' = Has flaws and is on thin ice, however has shown skills in the past and might be redeemable the way Roos remade Jetta into a AA standard defender.

' - showed signs, new coach' = Core list, worth persisting with, hopefully can blossom further still has upside.. 

Coaching:

> Pay Out / Release: Goodwhen and Richardson 

< Recruit Luke Beveridge and Dean Solomon (would jennings come back?)

Retain:

• may - B+F placing
• salem - core list, has skills, (bit of a smart ar$3)
• petracca - B+F placing
• jackson - future
• lever - we need a settled defense
• gawn - B+F placing
• oliver - B+F placing
• hibberd - we need a settled defense
• langdon - B+F placing
• fritsch - see what a new coach can do
• jetta - we need a settled defense, deserves a chance to come back from injury.
• t mac - see what a new coach can do
• jordan - future
• rivers - future
• weideman - showed signs, new coach
• sparrow  - future
• petty - see what a new coach can do
• pickett - future (far too early to call)
• lockhart - showed signs, new coach
• harmes - see what a new coach can do
• viney - B+F placing
• brayshaw '- see what a new coach can do', 
• preuss - core list (insurance)
• hunt - see what a new coach can do
• bennell  - core list, has skills,

TRADE / RELEASE TO FREE AGENCY OPTIONS:

• o mac - too frustrating
• anb - heart player but gone backwards
• hannan - passenger 
• smith - passenger
• vandenberg - heart player but damaging turnover king, more than ANB
• tomlinson - not enough heart, picks when too often.
• melksham - picks when too often, could be way more serious if he wanted.

LIKELY DELIST / RETIRE:

• jones - just thank you.
• spargo - NQR
• bedford- NQR
• kolodjashnij- NQR
• baker- NQR
• hore- NQR
• chandler- NQR
• brown- NQR
• c wagner- NQR
• j wagner- NQR

Rookie:

• bradtke
• dunkley
• neitschke

Thanks to whatwhatsaywhat for typing all the names out (or cut and pasting from the MFC site)

51 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Maybe it is a fitness thing.

Jetta's been named as an emergency, but Lockhart hasn't. So if it's not fitness, Lockhart's gone from best 22 to behind Jetta (and Rivers).

I still think it is, IIRC he was out of it after that bump. I can't recall any effort based or massive decision mistakes, that said Jetta fit and firing is 1st 22, just hoping Jetta gets a swansong.

Hope to see ANB tasked with a specific role, while a fan of the man and his attitude, and believing he was lynched for that tackle, I think he needs to develop more of a tagging role and make his tackles stick (but not as much as the last one). I don't think Lockhart is right yet, would back him over Smith. Pleased AVB is rested, have only see one truly effective disposal in last 4 games, (was a score assist). Harmes I have faith in him getting it right soon, and Fritsch too.

16 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

Just a thought...

We’ve all seen the lack of connection between our midfield and forwards the last 2 years. Any chance Jesse had a reason to be upset, and actually helped cover over that glaring issue during his time at the club?

I’d love him back. We need natural competitors with skills.

He had reason but I still don't think it's a good look on field. To be clear, I'd take him back.