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Experience of what, though?

You could Redleg, but wasn't it just stating the obvious, and typing in what we were all thinking?

This team has redefined the term pretenders, and when applied to us, it couldn't be more apt. They will get a hammering from the commentariat this week, which for normal teams might be a good thing, but as we've shown for the last 11 years, we will simply NOT respond. Everything to play for, but what do they dish up?

Two points. If not for Oliver's consistent application EVERY week (and he's only got a handful of mates), we would have been pumped at the clearances. Secondly, if we make finals, and we won't I suspect, it would be immeasurably damaging, and given how brittle we are, a disaster.

I couldn't give a rats **** who else you think offended, you just made an objectively irrational and idiotic judgement.

Utter garbage. Find something else to blame. WTF.

If the AFL are serious about improving the game in respect to fairness and equalisation, they MUST address the Adelaide, Perth and Geelong homeground umpiring bias, because it kills the game dead, and it did that tonight. Simply just not an even playing field.

Beaten by the umpires.

I hate to say it, but the media were right about today being a season defining game. It was the big stage audition, to prove if either team have what it takes. The answer couldn't have been more emphatic. Once more we have been exposed as frauds. And the most depressing thing is that it's one of the surest truths in football. Collingwood, at least half a dozen players short of their best 22, beat us in every facet of the game, and we apparently have a talent-rich list, and great depth. In the space of one game, our aspirations have been exposed as substance-less. 

Casey bound I reckon.

Yep. They ARE the real deal, as horrible as that is to say. We are FAR from it. Amazing how much one game can tell you.

Wow. They really are making us look bad. Apart from T-Mac, do we have any winners?

And that's the stupidest comment of the day.

Collingwood clearly a better contested ball team, quicker, sharper, better tacklers, and more depth. And we can't play the big stage. In respect to premiership possibilities, today proves we shouldn't even be in the conversation. For all the BS about QB being our GF, today it was a rehearsal, and we've been exposed as frauds. Utter frauds. Such is the MFC.

Melbourne has more ACL reconstructions performed per head of population than anywhere in the world. The best, most comprehensive science and rehabilitation in respect to recovery is right here.

The ruptured ligament is surgically replaced by an equivalent tissue, harvested in Jake's case from his patellar tendon or quadriceps tendon, as his hamstring has already been used. First stage is the anchored graft blending with the bone (3 months). Over the next 6 months it redevelops a blood supply, thus making it a fully regenerative tissue. 9 months total. Teenage recon failure rates are higher than for adult recons, so when he comes back, already his knee will be statistically more robust than it was before yesterday. Considering he seemed to be walking well yesterday and today, it will very likely be uncomplicated by bone bruising or MCL/meniscal damage, and thus uncomplicated in recovery. He'll miss the next 14 games (think about it!) then be back game equivalent footy by early March next year.

Yes.

9 months, knife to game play, no shorter exceptions.

That's rubbish, and LARS is a thing of the past, at least in sensible sports-med management.

Unless you're talking about meniscal removal, which I can imagine maybe in the 1960's. If so, they'd all be having knee replacements within 20 years and enjoying a massive class action payout. But then it is the U,S of A!

Nope, and never did. Must have been some other 'preventative' surgery.

Partial tear, and because he's 35 years old, they decided to roll the dice and leave it un-reconstructed. Don't be surprised if it doesn't hold up.

Interesting thing with repeat ACL ruptures. The physical test we use to assess ACL patency is the 'Lachman's' test, and in my experience and statistically, they reveal more 'give' on reconstructed knees than non. If the tests pre-MRI are suggesting some laxity with inconclusive 'end-feel' (when the ligament snaps tight), it's not easy to be definitive. If the MRI is now inconclusive, I'd suggest he'll now have a sneaky arthroscopy to get the real status of the ACL. I'll admit that as much as you can rupture an ACL in innocuous fashion, yesterday's was particularly innocuous. My first thought was a meniscal tear (cartilage), given it may have been vulnerable post first reconstruction. That would be a whole lot better, so here's hoping.

After Lever went off, he took on his role. And played his own. Almighty effort.

Mark Neeld. Obviously. Plenty of free time.