Webber

This bloke is EXACTLY what you want your playing group to be......true heart and soul club man. His commitment to the MFC is blood and guts stuff. Dare I say 'Spiritual Leader'?

Hey, don't go thinking the physics, universe thing is a young man's deal! I'm in my mid 40's, with a science background, and have just STARTED devouring stuff on the quantum universe, consciousness, and that it looks like reality ain't what I thought it was! Weirdly, I can't help thinking that it all relates to footy.....

*Good point about the Eagles, teams go on and off the boil this season like never before. Eagles at Etihad already has me anticipating a win. *Jordie Mac would be lead a merry dance by Cyril, and that's no disrespect to Jordie. Mitchell a much better option, and if the umpire pays even the slightest bit of attention, we could get 5 or 6 dropping the ball decisions in our favour! *Geelong at Shellacking stadium is the only game we CANNOT win. The club knows this, and I hope rests those who need to be, for our potential run toward the finals. The other point is that given we would be making up the numbers if we did make the 8, there is still significant financial incentive, and 'finals footy' experience to be had. I don't think it will happen, and unless we beat one of Hawthorn, Geelong or Carlton, we ABSOLUTELY don't deserve to be there.

All good stuff you say......but could we be chasing the future too much by topping up with youth every year? As this year has shown, we are too youth heavy. Of course having high draft picks gives us trade strength, so I guess we win again..........hmmmmm.

I, for one, would ask hard questions about whether Tom Scully will be worth this kind of elite money. What we know about him thus far is..... * His patellofemoral joint has begun a process of degrading. This may not come to bite for 10 years, but it may also become chronic within a few. * His endurance, gut-running and ball finding are elite, his CONSISTENCY for the latter is, so far, not. * His decision making with the ball is average * His disposal by hand is close to elite * His disposal by foot is below average......he fails to hit targets too often at this stage * His body height and size will always hinder his absolute potential for the one on one contested ball * He has no significant overhead talent, unlike Jack Trengove. His talents will of course improve, and his value will grow compared to what he offers now......but with what degree of confidence would you think it will reach the level suggested by the money being touted, i.e. Judd like importance? I don't think it will, and I think we have stockpiled a very good future midfield without Tom Scully. If we get 2 first round picks, as Adrian Anderson is basically confirming, allowing us to address the more obvious needs of size up front and arguably down back that we have, then I think we will have done very well. I do, however, think he will stay, and I suspect Dean Bailey being re-employed will be the largest factor in his decision. Also, don't ignore the chance he could go elsewhere than GWS.

The relevant factor here is Darwin. Davey is FROM Darwin, and will play beyond his form and fitness there. It could also be just the confidence boost he needs. In : MacDonald, Tapscott (just obvious), Davey. Out : Bennell, Morton, Blease (unfortunate, but he was there for injury reasons).

Brilliant retort! Trying responding to the criticism RR, or are you one of the spineless fear-monkeys?

I can't believe the exceptional levels of vitriole and elitist, xenophobic hatred on here. And from supporters of the first Australian Football club, the one that wrote the original rules. No, we DON'T all want to see GWS fail. I don't. Putting aside the personalities and bosses surrounding this venture, there is NOTHING undesirable about seeing our NATIONAL GAME become ever more national. That is one of the things I love about this game.......it reflects the unique nature of our sporting culture and our people, and it's popularity is rightly growing, and greatly so. To all of you suggesting that the creation of a club in one of the largest working class population hubs of our nation will somehow poison the competition, the game, or our beloved Demons, perhaps you could become a little less bigotted, and a little less afraid. Your anger toward this venture is simply ugly, and plainly lacking in foresight. What EXACTLY are you all afraid of? Did you all have the same fear when the Eagles came in? Did you all resent the VFL becoming the AFL? I played senior footy in the 80's as a schoolkid in Sydney for a North Shore club, and we used to go to the west to play Mt.Druitt, and Penrith. After avoiding getting my teeth kicked in, I used to imagine how great it would be if footy become the mainstay of those areas over Rugby League. Well, here it is. It's a great game, and it's our ONLY national game. Let go of the sooky whingeing, suck it up, and celebrate it.

RIP Sean Wight.....gutsy to a fault, exciting to the max, just a great player to have in the team you support. And with Jimmy, a TRUE pioneer. Too soon, too sad.

Whoever we get as compensation for Scully B)

Speaking of Jack, anyone see the kudos on him for Vic Metro this weekend? He's looking very very likely.

Very true what you say about McClure, but he has a woeful lack of complexity in his assessments, and inability to account for context. He frequently holds onto his 'no shades of grey' opinions like a dog with a bone, whereupon the game will play out in a way that contradicts his absolutism, and he flips like a dying fish. Week to week he is the most self-contradicting commentator out there. There's a strange attraction in listening to this though, kind of a nice balance to Stan Alves sycophantic hyperbole.

It's an opinion.....as the end of the paragraph would suggest. Go easy friend. B)

Brilliant footy, he drew the player, feinted to go himself, drew the player again, then put it into Ricky's hands........delicious! (apologies to Bruce McAvaney)

6. Watts 5. Martin 4. Moloney 3. Howe 2. McKenzie 1. Scully Apologies to Nicho, Sylvia, Green, Frawley, and others.

He's a classic low left footer, but I did see him nail a 30m right foot pass today as well....good work Nicho.

I beg you, and anybody else on here, not to quote Drew Morphett! He is the most monumental muppet of a commentator, I just CANNOT understand how he gets a gig. And he has been for 30 or whatever years. He brings no insight, no quality, and is woefully glib..... rubbish of the highest order!!!!!!!!!

We can't beat the Tigers.....they are harder, and our inability to move the ball efficiently forward out of our 50 against any of the sides perceived to be at our level, or above us, is a killer. They will apply a lot of pressure and muscle in the middle and in our back half, and we will [censored] ourselves again, providing a bevy of turnovers. I wish it were otherwise, but today's game was a doddle against a team with 4 of their best 5 out, then losing their in form forward before the game, then left with a 2 man bench after halftime. Today was the very definition of an easy kill, and sadly I think it does nothing but give us a false sense of our own form................then again, anything can happen, but it would be a major upset, for mine. The Good : Further great signs from Watts, Martin, Howe (he's the dog's nuts, this boy), Maximus Gawn, and Dan Nicholson The Bad : That this game tells us close to nothing, and Clint Bartram. The Ugly : The endless repetition on 774 of how sad it is that Freo haven't got Sandilands et al, and the once or twice Jamar cracked a mention. Not ONE word about Grimes, Davey, or Tapscott however. Just proves that the media are happy to be selective apologists.

post of the year.......particularly this week

The idea of Jeremy Howe at full forward a la Jack Riewoldt is interesting.....could work. His leap will compensate for his height. Jack Watts is really tricky, I think he will become a player who has it all. When his endurance begins to peak in 3 or 4 years, and you combine his speed, physicality, marking and kicking ability, you pretty much want him everywhere. Will be interesting to see

'Ripping into' Artie is precisely what you are doing WYL, and I think of you as being one of the more aggressive, personality attacking posters on here, hence your telling someone to 'shut up'...woefully arrogant stuff. Why is it you are so vitriolic? You seem to be one of those people who are completely unconscious of the fact that alternative opinions to yours don't automatically make them wrong. Opinions are NOT agenda's, they're points of view. This agenda rubbish you speak of is a kind of paranoid madness. Live and let live WYL, we're not all out to get each other.

Correct.....how he was left 50m in the clear.....twice, just beggars belief! Train wreck coaching.

+1 Whingeing rubbish.....beginning to sound like the ignorant Collingwood supporters behind me yesterday. Go hard and be first for the ball, get free kicks. Bad decisions abound no doubt, but they even up in the end.

+1. It's precisely the kind of way too heavy expectation that says JW needs to rip it up against Collingwood that sees him pilloried for not being a superstar already! He is more than holding his spot now, and continues to improve almost weekly, yet he is expected I suspect by a lot here, to be best on ground against last year's premiers. Give the kid some breathing room FFS. He's good and getting better.

Except of course that his physicality and willingness to use it is FAR better than Jurrah's. His tackling and shepherding were outstanding on Friday. To be fair to LJ, his willingness to use his body is getting better, and he's not just getting flicked off the ball like fluff in any contest. It's very exciting to imagine what these two might be like together as time goes on.