Bobby McKenzie

Just wondering if the North Melb player was his required distance from the kick off line when Buckley was nabbed? Won't alter the score though. Anyone see it on video?

Thanks Whispering Jack on behalf of 'Mono'.

Sorry Jaded but your criticism of Bruce is mounting day by day almost to the point of being as repetitive as YM. We traded Travis last year for a boy who hasn't played one senior game so far this year and has yet to show he will be a frontline player. I certainly hope he will be but that is still an unknown factor. Bruce is a proven player and trading him for an unknown draft pick would be ridiculous. ' A bird in the hand is worth...'

Goose you are lamentable and I too wonder if you are Yze Magic in disguise! Bruce is the second highest TACKLER this year, but you say he doesn't tackle. (4 on Sunday.) You haven't addressed the fact that the people who are important, his coaches and selectors must strongly disagree with you on all counts. You are saying you know more about football ability then they do. The biggest joke was when you said he doesn't leave the ground sore. The guy is playing with shin splints (very painful) and is on crutches for 24 hours after each game. Try running 15 kilometres with that pain mate. Not bad toughness for a 'fairy'. Like it or not he is our best player and is badly needed next year.

Goose, with comments like yours you have given yourself an accurate title. Who is leading the MFC club player of the year after 16 rounds? Who is the leading possession getter for Melb. Who will feature in the voting for our best and fairest again! Check that out. It is so amusing that people like you and other Bruce bashers know so much more about Bruce's so called lack of ability than the selectors and entire coaching staff at MFC. If they thought like you he would not have played 179 games with the club. Get real mate. I wonder if you could average 22 possessions in an AFL season. You just sit home and press buttons and its so easy to criticize.

You are certainly a tough critic Jaded. This week we had two invisible men, our co -captains who were quote,'nowhere to be seen'. Junior had 26 possessions and Bruce 20.( A lower number of posessions than his usual high quota). Did you attend the game? Bruce also laid 4 tackles and ran his usual 15 kilometres in pain. They tried their guts out for the team as they do EVERY week. 46 possessions but not one seen by you! Be fair and don't be a knocker.

Sorry '45hotgod' I meant you not Jerry! You took a tiny sample of 9 people and because only one had Bruce in their best that meant that the coaches view was surprising to you. Rather too small a sample to work on. What about newspapers who had Bruce in their best?

As I said Jerry, it is only my opinion. if the coaches reckon Cam played better than I thought what's the problem? It's their opinion against mine. QED

My best were 6 Jamar 5 Chris Johnson 4 Bruce 3 Miller 2 Davey 1 Bate But as you know Jerry, it is only MY opinion!

OK I'll simply change the word 'ability' to 'performance on the day'.Therefore my remark now doesn't miss the point. Fair enough?

You could say simply that you are not a good judge of a player's ability!

Bruce-Rarely sighted? He must have been the invisible man to rake up 27 possessions. Most of them effective too. Also harsh on Jamar. Have a look at his score on the AFL game day Live. I think it was 108 which is a bit more than being rarely sighted. You must have been in a foul mood today mate.

Oh no! I didn't have you on my list as a Bruce hater Jerry.

Some reliable inside information I received by phone is that Junior will not be considered because of your reasoning above. Well done Jaded!

Yeah me too. He must have found that hard to bear! Cam could kick 10 goals straight from 10 disposals and his baggers would declare them inefficient because they didn't split the posts and only scraped in.

Great stuff mate! I didn't know of Cam's shin problem and what sort of guts does that show? Terrific leadership indeed. I bet YM would declare himself unavailable if he had a blister on his little toe! Bruce's so called bad handballs are only so because some of our boys are not ready for the swiftness of them. They fumble the ball and Cam gets the rap from our 'expert' Bruce haters. I have followed the Dees since the '50s and Bruce is in my top 50 players of my time. He is also a real role model as a BALL player. He is scrupulously fair at all times. Definite captain next year!

Not playing for the Hawks this week. Injured or not selected?

Who is Boyle? Who does he play for? Couldn't see his name in any of the teams this round. Would have to be good to be better than Bruce. Stupid trade that! It won't happen!

Agree. Naitanui has a LONG way to go to be a champion AFL footballer. I was disappointed with his play and lack of presence around the ground. I can't remember him taking even one big grab which considering his big leap was surprising. Although Watts was quiet in this game, he looked all class when he got the ball. Rich was good in the first half but faded when tagged. I thought Vickery showed a lot more potential than Naita. The standard of play by the Vics in particular was impressive and there were many good prospects showing their talents. In fact, any team finishing just outside or even in the 8 are likely to pick up some good talent. Finishing last for the sake of getting a good pick is no longer important. There are many standouts in this year's bunch of youngsters. I'd go for Watts then Rich. Mind you No1 for Vic Met was a likely colt too. He was a ball magnet and tough into the bargain. Can anyone remember his name?

You're in 'Ooze2 Juice'. Our tally is now 15. Anymore out there?

Thanks for the footage of the '64 GF. I enjoyed it. I'll have a look at the GF 1960 tomorrow. Cheers mate.

Of course Peter Marquis made the list and was a great player indeed. Sorry 'pitmaster', I didn't pick up Peter Marquis from your nickname. 14 now. Join the club!

Just noticed the name Don Cordner on the forum. Add his name to my list. Any others that I've missed?