Robbie57

Hogan 80

Garlett 48

Watts/Tyson/Viney/Salem/Petracca/ 40

Kent 28

Dawes 27

JKH 25

Howe 21

Call me optimistic, call me deluded, call me unrealistic, call me stupid, but what the hell, if we don't set our expectations high we won't have anything to aim at. Of course I'm expecting too much from Jesse Hogan but sometimes dreams come true.

Dear Odus,

No pressure on the young fella.

Hogan 25

Garlett 20

Dawes 20

Watts 15

Tyson15

Vince (the obligatory long bomb) 8

Viney 6

Salem (may play forward and if so) : 15

Petracca 10

Kent 12

JKH 14

Howe (playing back) so 5

Gawn 8

N Jones 7

Russian 5

We need to get about 4 - 5 extra goals a game to be competitive.

Is Petracca having "that" preseason that we always knew Colin needed to be a star?

Steady, Col must be having that preseason right now over West.

Gunner Sylvia.

Beating Geelong at Geelong.

I was there the day that last happened. A guest of a mate who is a member, sitting behind the goals amongst Sea of Blue and White. I flew down from Sydney just for the afternoon. Best flight home ever.

In order of satisfaction:

Collingwood, I'd like to burn that stupid gold lame jacket.

Hawthorn, with Hogan booting 6 on Frawley.

GWS at Homebush, I go every year and just want to smash the smug little sods.

Really top effort. PJ deserves a lot of praise for this.

Love the fact we have picked up two sets of best mates....bodes well for building ateaam for the future. Are we moving to SA?

Do i recall correctly they call the top Ten backwards? Like the spelling test.

Any chance that the whole show will be done and dusted within an hour?

No it will be stage managed to within an inch of its life.

Roos on AFL live now.

Sincere condolences to his family and friends, this is a terrible loss for all of them.

I also feel for Sean Abbott at this time it was a tragic accident.

I feel quite numb.

Solid red.

Thank heavens we wont look like the swans.

Heard today he is requesting 5 year 3.5m. Club and player not far away, Term of deal is more the sticking point. Negotiations are continuing, but positive

Just do it.

I loved the Oooze, congratulations..

What appears to be an overs deal today will not seem that way this time next year. We have room in our cap this year so we should use it to redress the past and make sure his future is secured.

If it means we remove the scars of the past that is a good result as well.

Jetta (51 - 2008), Gawn (34 - 2009), Howe and McDonald (33, 53 - 2010), Kent (48 - 2012), JKH (40 - 2013).

I'd say that's worth a shot.

Much better than our first round pick record!

Worth 200k to pay someone out if they are unwilling drop back to the rookie list

I agree for all the gnashing of teeth over who we could have picked in the top ten often there is someone in the lower order that ends up an A grader or B+.

I'd like us to use 40 because I suspect this is where Roos comes into his own in picking someone who will develop over time, JHK, Howe and McDonald are great examples of this.

Perhaps its that players at this level work that little bit harder and have more to prove.

I also look forward to the "who?" reaction it draws.

That said we should take no further risks with Trenners who i think will come back and be better thatn before

Hmmm, played golf again today with my mate and the dreaded word "stalemate" came up (in regards to $$$ and term). Don't like hearing that word. The positive thing is that we are in discussions with NJ, unlike Frawley last year. Still very confident he will sign before end of November.

I dont see this as a negative, he is talking to us with a deal that probably means he is a Dee for life. I hope the club realises that an extra year on the deal with all the salary inflation going on is nothing in the bigger scheme of things. As for the dollars we have to realise what the market is. Most so called stalemates have seen the player sign..

In my view picks are paper money. You really dont know what you are going to get or the true value of the pick for some time. Sure they are an opportunity to back your guess before other teams but history shows that remains very speculative exercise. Roos knows this when he articulated his general approach to the draft. It appears our approach was to find the best available replacement for Frawley. Our bet is that Frost is developing as a key backman who is not yet as good as Frawley but can fill that role at senior level. If we passed because of some belief that picks are bankable currency then we have learnt very little as a club. The question is not whether he was worth pick 23 but rather does he fill the role we needed to fill this year and we will know the answer over the next season.

Obviously targetting Brayshaw because Petracca a lock at 1. If the Saints let him slip we will take him no doubt about that. Clearly Roos after the best 2 mids on offer. Saints would be silly to try and play games here.

15th 76%

(But my crazy demon heart will still think we can win every game and finish in the top 8 ... go dees)

Funny the Saints feigning interest in Brayshaw, they would be murdered by their supporters to pass on Petracca.

From our point of view it doesn't matter we will get 2 good players whatever they do.

I think he is our first "crusty demon".

Roos should know what it takes to be a good defender, I bet he will put a lot of time into this guy.

Good pick up with a pick that had been earmarked for the super trade we couldn't do.

We will be better off that most after the draft.

WTF? I cant believe it surely we have someone in mind for 40.

If we really rated petraca we'd trade pick 2 and 3 to guarantee it.

No way

GWS are idiots.

They're going to lose him for nothing anyway, just swap some late picks or take Blease or something and move on.

They just dont need any late picks they have 4, 6, 7 and countless others they are unlikely to use.