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Perhaps because his body's shot and he can't get up to play two games in a row.

Not to mention Melksham (the way he was playing) plus Brayshaw - compare Bayshaw's output to Jordan's. Then throw in the suspension to JVR.

Ridiculous comments re Goodwin, and all the coaches for that matter. The team they put out there had the tools to win ... but the players couldn't execute.

Oliver, Gawn, Viney, Sparrow, Spargo, ANB, Tomlinson, Chandler all kicked points, zero goals.

They took their chances. We didn't. More I50, more shots on goal, still lost.

You don't take in a one-trick pony like Grundy as a sub, no matter how good the trick is.

Yes, because we're overflowing with potential subs. Laurie not up to it, Harmes & Dunstan injured, Grundy not versatile enough, etc. About the only other possibility might be Turner, but he's too green and only has form as a defender.

Not with the injuries we've had. You need everything to go right to go deep into finals

"Wanted to hit, wanted to hurt': Brayden Maynard - the guilty man found innocent." https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/09/13/brayden-maynard-the-guilty-man-found-innocent/

Don't think so. It would be an admission that the current rules are not enough to protect the head and that the game is changing. Terrible look for the AFL regardless of the legality.

Suspect we'll see some rule changes next season.

Perhaps explains why there are so many Pies supporters voting on the live blog.

Of course it is. But Maynard was reported for this, as well as giving away a downfield free. i.e., his actions were outside the rules, so not sure where "football act" comes into it.

With Curnow out there it would be like giving them a five goal start. You don't break what's working to fix what isn't.

The other other option was not to charge full pelt at Brayshaw and launch into the air in the first place. Duty of care, likely to lead to a reportable offence etc.

Just what are you on about. Post here whatever it is from that decision that illustrates the points you think you're making. Though to save you the trouble ... "Reasons for Appeal Board decision: We recognise in coming to this conclusion that the Tribunal faced the most difficult case in all circumstances and for that reason we propose to hand down written reasons in the near future. In essence, we accept the submissions made by Ihle (Giants) on behalf of Bedford relating to the evidence or the lack of evidence that was before the Tribunal. We accept it was open to the Tribunal to find that there was contact by the body of Bedford with Fisher’s head, however in our view neither the evidence nor the reasons expressed by the Tribunal in respect of such evidence is sufficient to establish that such contact was “forceful” as required by the AFL regulations. Accordingly, we set aside the decision of the Tribunal."

Jesus H Christ. Not only did I read it, I posted the conclusion in this thread. There is no mention of intent in the Bedford decision, it turns on how much force was used.

Nonsense. This from the Tribunal itself. After reading it, delete your post. "A Player’s conduct will be regarded as Careless where his conduct is not intentional, but constitutes a breach of the duty of care owed by the Player to all other Players."

You read the Toby Bedford decision. Not even a mention of "intent", it was all about the level of force (and thus the grading). You really should stop. "We accept it was open to the Tribunal to find that there was contact by the body of Bedford with Fisher’s head, however in our view neither the evidence nor the reasons expressed by the Tribunal in respect of such evidence is sufficient to establish that such contact was “forceful” as required by the AFL regulations. Accordingly, we set aside the decision of the Tribunal."

Irrelevant. No-one has to prove that for him to be suspended.

And Trac ... so us mids need to get better at actually delivering the ball inside 50 better rather than blazing away and putting it on their heads.”

Surprised that this hasn't been mentioned more. Apart from being strong as a mid, Brayshaw has been key to allowing Trac more forward time and as such, in the way the team is setup. Losing that game will really cost us, and losing Brayshaw was a real factor in why we lost that game.

Can't see how we don't use Grundy. Carlton play 2 decent rucks, plus good talls at both ends, even with McKay out.

Would free up Petracca to go forward, which was less possible on Thursday. Turner in to free up Rivers?