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Like which part? Kicking? Goals? Overhead marking/spoiling? Defensive pressure as a stoppage sweeper? Attack on ground balls? Tackling? The one thing he does to an ok standard is positioning in transition but he can be exploited by teams when he’s dropped back too far too. He’s just completely meh.

It was good in preseason when he had time, space and no consequence. But any time he’s asked to do anything but 20m down the line he butchers it, and he’s rarely out and running to do that (or anything more).

We don’t have the backline or midfield either. I mean, we have the backline talent but they don’t play like it under pressure. We don’t have answers with the midfield. Clarry and Tracc back in will help but we at least one, maybe 2 skilled running players

What is the point of Lachie Hunter? He’s utterly ineffective. 176 metres gained. 5 pressure acts. 3 score involvements. Give Taj a proper crack on the wing. He might make some positional errors but he’s not afraid to run with the ball and he can compete in the air. I don’t really care who comes in. Harmes, Spargo, Hibbo and sliding Salem, Riv or Bowser up.

Playing like a captain whilst Max picks and chooses, should probably make it official

We just dropped away any time we had the lead consolidated, in the second, third and to start and end the last. As usual our mids were held like crazy out of stoppages when meant we got short entries, and their super dangerous half backs went to town on slow or inexperienced half forwards. Wingers got targeted all day and gave up 5000 marks, and the crows looped around to take advantage of those marks. Backline had a stinker to start the last and May needs to get his head out of backside and just play the game on merits. Tomlinson started like a house on fire then ended like a house burnt to the ground.

The second one, who I actually like a little more is Eastern Ranges wingman Caleb Windsor. He seems to have a really good burst of speed and is a nice user of the ball. What I like is when he's under pressure in contested situations he seems to have a plan of where to go to keep the ball moving. And a lovely short/medium kick that is well weighted. Demonstrates some really clean hands too, on the deck and looks solid overhead.

I watched a little of the Champs here and there, but I'm certainly intrigued by the lack of midfield prospects in the top 10-15 of popular draft ratings. So now that someone has very usefully clipped some videos together I've looked through a few and found a couple of interesting players. The first one is Darcy Wilson who's a 185cm wing/mid. Late October birth so maybe a bit of a late bloomer. From Wang I believe so I'm sure @dazzledavey36 will know more about him. His kicking and decision making at stoppages both need a fair bit of work (likes to bang it forward under pressure), but he looks a proper athlete with some really quick feet and he has some creativity to his decision making in space too. I expect he'll start to fill out and end up with a very handy frame for a running player too. I like the way he steps tacklers and releases handballs in to space. Handy first Academy game against the Port reserves. Then really hitting his straps at Talent League level where he's clearly a cut above. Champs games seemed to be a mixed bag. I think he's one to watch in the back end of the Talent League season as he could really dominate now he's had experiences at the higher level.

But Sanders as a likely top 10 pick does effectively push our picks back 1, especially if we wanted to take him with our first pick. In fact, if they leave him in the draft and let North match a bid we should bid as early as possible for him and chew up their second round picks. North deserve nothing, they were gifted Logue (and Tucker) and they’ve shown no intent to get better by trading picks in or more experience outside using extra list spots for Shiels and Howe.

Spot on. The dogs had mid season injuries and finished 7th in 2016. An absolute triumph. Why would you want to ruin the chance of that ever happening again? We really need to expand finals just because some people can’t take a breath for a weekend? We’re catering to fast food lovers (geez there’s a lot of maccas ads on SEN, do you think the boss likes the product).

Tracc and hopefully once healthy Fritsch should alternate between CHF. Fritter is under-utilised if he’s consistently playing so close to goal. I‘d like to have both of those guys playing forward alongside Max in the ruck and 3 taller forwards. Could be any of 3 of Grundy, BBB, JVR or Melk. I don’t expect Grundy will suddenly develop sticky hands or leading patterns in a short period of time. I suspect the big thing they are looking for is a consistent impact at the aerial contest and far better defensive pressure. He has the size and athleticism to do that.

You can be as competitive as you want but are you turning down double the money? Because that’s the kind of offers guys got at GWS and GC. The best argument might be he’s from Launceston so it’s not like he’d really be home if he’s off to Hobart. Driving is far more convenient than flying but the actual commute for hopping on a plane isn’t much different. I’d almost always go with the talent as long as they’re happy to come (and he would be because he’s not sitting out 4 years), but it’s a factor.

He looks a serious talent but even without the Tassie go home factor I’m not absolutely sold. Prolific, tenacious and great burst speed but decision making doesn’t look great. I got hammered for saying last year that I’m far from convinced this year will be a super draft and I think it’s shaping up weaker than last years top end crop. The talls apart from Walter aren’t blowing me away, the medium forwards haven’t come on and Harley Reid’s the only consensus top 10 mid from Vic, WA or SA which is bizarre.

Chandler has a bit more physical pressure in tight, but Spargo is one of if not our most organised in getting the zone set. They bring different attributes defensively. We won’t get much from BBB and Melk, but I wonder how much defensive cohesion can improve as those guys as well as Tracc, Sparrow and Woey settle in together We’re also one paced in the middle with Gus and JJ both full time mids. We miss Clarry’s defensive speed.

I was hyperbolic saying we got nothing. We had the slight edge as we should’ve winning the contested ball. I was upset with JVR got a monster shove out square in the back and not long after Daniher takes a huge dive when May rested his hands on either side of his hips for balance. The ump was 40m away. I’m convinced 4 umpires haven’t done a better job officiating inside 50’s, if anything they get caught out worse now than ever as the middle umps assume the inside 50 ump has an angle on every contest rather than trying to cover each other. That’s a structural issue. I also think we’ve been playing Brisbane for years and had them scrag our mids and forwards with early tackles, force turnovers and take the ball away. Every side does it but for Brisbane it’s a clear tactic against us. It’s at the stage where I’m shocked Goodwin hasn’t gone public with it. Brisbane’s mids are smaller and lighter than ours and have a plan to tackle, which is legal, but starting those tackles before the player gets the ball is not. After about the 5th consecutive incident of Starcevich tackling Petracca at forward 50 stoppages we got the free. The crowd caught on to it before the umps and made some noise. Rare and impressive work from the demon fans.

I really want Laurie to succeed and there’s no doubt he’s got skills and vision but I can’t see how his lack of speed and physicality doesn’t get exploited. Apart from still needing another summer in the gym I really think he has to at least rotate on ball to succeed at afl level. And with a packed midfield rotation as is that’s not going to happen.

So just completely copy Collingwood despite far different personnel, why haven't 17 other teams thought of that? Mindset, easy done, should all be fixed now. Mindset 1 v Mindset 2 in the grand final, should be a great match.

How do we get it to the corridor? 1. Force turnovers in the corridor? Unlikely, given teams don't use it much against us when our pressure is on, and when they do we aren't exactly known as a quick inside midfield brigade likely to cut teams down in the middle. 2. Run it to the corridor? We absolutely need to do this more, but we aren't exactly full of half backs with blistering pace or midfielders with creativity. Tracc and Clarry are masters of getting the ball on the rebound and running the corridor, but without them in the midfield it's less likely to happen. 3. Kick it to the corridor. I'd like to see this more, but the reality is we don't have a lead up CHF so it's generally reliant on overloading the corridor with sneaky little ANB leads or some such thing. Tracc likes a short little lead in to the corridor but it's really hard kick to master. The big thing we need to do to either run or kick in to the corridor is for our backs to stop having their first reaction being handballing or kicking as wide and skinny side as possible. I'm happy to risk a few chase down tackles to encourage our defenders to run and link towards the space. 'In one side, out the other' is a very basic rule for defensive rebounding and would serve us so much better than our usual habit of immediately seeking the boundary in the backline.

Shout out to the crowd for actually getting fired up in the last quarter. Didn't exactly help us with the umps as we got stuff all for most of the night but I'm sure it helped the players and put some doubt in to the Lions players mind. Far from the biggest but certainly one of the more passionate demons crowds I've witness at least since covid. Maybe tonight we didn't have as many of the bandwagoners from after 2021 and had more of the crazy nutters who sat through the lean years.

Petty was on Hipwood as much as Lever early, and that’s a pretty normal Hipwood stat line. 5 intercepts is a bad day for Jake. 80% efficiency isn’t a surprise when you don’t take any risks or provide any drive with the footy. 189m gained, that’s very ordinary.

Certainly, we were hacking high balls to CHF rather than moving it with any intent. Easy Harris punches fell to Lions mids who were lining up. But other times the Lions would switch and then hit a lead up forward before streaming through. When we pressed up rather than leaving an easy outlet we got the ball back to our mids to charge the other way

Far bigger stronger more experienced defenders get themselves in big trouble when Charlie Cameron gets them in that bench press position, he usually works them up the ball then escapes out the back. Judd has so much composure just to stay in the contest, read the drop, get a fist in.

Yep our defenders were sucking back and the lions were rolling forwards up and then running through us. Plus we had no attacking drive at all. Once we had no choice but to take it on we saw Rivers and Bowey make key intercepts, we had ANB getting involved back though the corridor and the forwards at least had a chance to compete

The question is can Gawn do the same thing rucking 70-80% and resting forward 10%. And can Grundy ruck 20-30%, to stay in the game, whilst making an impact in 50-60% forward time? And what forwards do we need around them. That’s roughly the balance of the Gawn-Jackson combination of 2021, where Jacko was good enough forward and then obviously he got the call to do more ruck work in the granny. The other consideration is the forwards. Probably has to be BBB OR JVR, plus Melk and Fritsch and Tracc to make it work.

Lever had a stinker? Very few intercepts, turned around multiple times, no attacking drive. Luckily he did just enough to not get beaten on the siren