Dr. Mubutu

And even then...... (Yes, I was just looking for a reason to post this)

Nope. Jordie McKenzie.

3rd deal was for #3 and #13.

I've posted this in another thread, but I think its rightful home is here, given the discussion of Beamer's dissatisfaction with Neeld's approach: It would have hurt the Club more to keep saying Moloney was on the right track and that he was required, when obviously internally he was not rated by the coaching staff at all, and was seen to have chucked a hissy fit having been relieved of a position in the leadership group. It was better for the club as a whole to make an example of Beamer, and show that the club was incredibly serious about the need for all players to be on board with the direction the club was heading. Yes, it's not a good look for a club's reigning B&F to be searching for a trade mid-year, however it was obvious to all that he was butting heads with the now incumbent football department. To allow this to continue would only have undermined the message that the FD are trying to sell, and if this lessens the pick value we get for Brent, then so be it. The intangible value that this move shows further strengthens the vision of the Club, showing that regardless of standing, if you refuse to meet minimum standards or follow the instructions of the coaching panel, you WILL NOT get a game with Melbourne. As far as I'm concerned, this only paints the MFC in a better light, as they are trying to instil a professional environment, where it was arguable that one didn't exist before, and one disgruntled player is not above what the club is trying to achieve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Beamer.

Hmmmm. May be that at my workplace we get unlimited BigPond (and Facebook and YouTube) usage, just a knee-jerk reaction as everyone here insists on using IE!

No problems for me.... you sure you're using a decent browser? (Chrome or GTFO)

Media conference up now on DeeTV. Neeld looks like the cat that's stolen the cream. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/dee%20tv/tabid/8667/default.aspx

Why do I have the feeling the assistance he's got is from one P Scully?

Best of both worlds: Trade him for a late pick, and with that pick select Mack Byron-Prendergast. Excellent name, plus we have a new scapegoat with the name Prendergast! Win-win.

Quick question: why is everyone seemingly OK with Sellar being made a defender, but so adamant about Martin being used in attack? Martin is much more natural as a defender than a forward, IMO.

Sticky tape? Surely given the amount raised, we could splurge on some gaff?

Plus the ability to snag Viney in the second round. Let's be honest, that wouldn't have happened had we not had picks 3&4. Best #1 draft pick ever!

You really want Sylvia to have ANOTHER injury-interrupted preseason?

It's amazing how many people on here are into masochism (myself included, having rewatched 186 again recently to make sure I didn't imagine it........)

cfe, it would have hurt the Club more to keep saying Moloney was on the right track and that he was required, when obviously internally he was not rated by the coaching staff at all, and was seen to have chucked a hissy fit having been relieved of a position in the leadership group. It was better for the club as a whole to make an example of Beamer, and show that the club was incredibly serious about the need for all players to be on board with the direction the club was heading. Yes, it's not a good look for a club's reigning B&F to be searching for a trade mid-year, however it was obvious to all that he was butting heads with the now incumbent football department. To allow this to continue would only have undermined the message that the FD are trying to sell, and if this lessens the pick value we get for Brent, then so be it. The intangible value that this move shows further strengthens the vision of the Club, showing that regardless of standing, if you refuse to meet minimum standards or follow the instructions of the coaching panel, you WILL NOT get a game with Melbourne. As far as I'm concerned, this only paints the MFC in a better light, as they are trying to instil a professional environment, where it was arguable that one didn't exist before, and one disgruntled player is not above what the club is trying to achieve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Beamer.

No, the club didn't infer anything. Imply, maybe. You're the one who inferred.

Jesus. Worst post of the year nomination. And there have been some doozies this year.

What's wrong with your namesake's #13? I went with it the first year he wore it, never regretted the decision.

Fitzy is being groomed as a KPF. With Hogan coming in, unless he is going to play the 'Leigh Brown role' (as much as I hate calling it that), his days may very well be numbered.

Jeeesus. According to Emma Quayle, GWS have just picked up St. Kilda's pick 12. https://twitter.com/...163420498853889 Edit reason: twitter link changed.

Even better was JV's reply:

Just use either of the following: http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl Trust me. I use them, because I'm also too cheap!

Thinking about it, trading pick 3 or pick 4 will be merely splitting hairs. If we trade pick 4, GWS will simply take Toumpas at 2 and just pick up Grundy at 4, as there is almost no chance we'll pick him up. Whereas pick 3 looks better on paper, and we will essentially be picking up the same player as if we were to give up pick 4. Therefore, go hard. Pick 3 + steak knives (not pick 13).

'Scoreboard pressure' is one of the most useless phrases ever invented. "We need to put scoreboard pressure on" could surely be covered by "we need to score", couldn't it?

So Skills, I assume you were over the moon when we picked up Shannon in 2005? What a player he turned out to be.