Adam The God

Interesting. Would certainly change the face of our team a bit with Langdon and Phillips off half back, and Langdon and Tomlinson on the wings. Means Salem could push into the midfield and we could play a more mobile defensive zone.

Well, yeah, it'd be pretty ugly in O's case, but good on him.

We need mids that are complimentary of one and other. At the moment, we've got too many of the same and they don't have the flexibility to roll through the midfield AND play forward, or on a wing, or at half back. I still think we should be trading Gus or Viney, but anyway. Not going to happen this year.

Know your poster, #2.

Yep, well done. Classic Olisik. We really missed you around these parts.

GWS would trade a similar player to Wright for a third or second rounder. Just look at Scully and Patton.

I'd be okay with this. ?

Yeah, so I hear. But it's likely we'll need a bit more x factor than one first year player.

Now that Ben King is off the table (shattered), I'm not particularly interested in a likely KPF. I'd certainly take Gunston for a couple of years, but I think we need to be looking long term here. It would also depend on the cost for Gunston. It's looking like we should build a forward line around McDonald, Melksham, Fritsch, Hannan and some zippy smalls. A quick, mobile, dangerous forward line. Would love a bit more x factor than those names mentioned though. Harry McKay is the only other tall kid I'd love too, but that'll never happen.

I said this when we drafted Jordon, but my mate who coached him at Oakleigh Chargers really rates him. Reckons he'll come on a lot after a few pre seasons in the system. Great kid apparently too.

Exactly. They've got a very small amount of elite and are almost entirely propped up by a now instinctive system.

No, thanks. Average player with no hurt factor and no elite trait.

I'm a big advocate for systems. Of course, the perfect mix is solid system and great skill, but given the stretching of the talent pool that you describe above, there is just not enough talent to give every team 22 solid citizens. Get your system right and with a few stars, you can set up a dynasty (without a particular focus on everyone being highly skilled). Richmond are showing this now. This is the modern game IMO. I agree with your strategy, but it has to be complimented by a strong system and a club can build that system over one pre season, but to sustain it (see the Bulldogs as a good example) is really difficult. Completely agree with your initial point too. St Kilda don't have the chips this year to play with. Monday-Wednesday this week is actually going to be fascinating for once, because I reckon they're a bit stuffed.

Can we get in on a trade for Gresham? Has that little bit of x factor that would suit our forward line. Has stagnated a bit in my view. Maybe a second rounder this year and a future 3rd or 4th to give them picks.

The other thing about St Kilda's strategy here is if they don't land say 2 of those guys that have nominated them, how can they possibly say to anyone they're trying to lure next year, that they'll definitely get the deal done? @Macca what do you think of St Kilda's strategy here? I'm keen to know because you're a big advocate of known talent versus the draft lottery.

A F dreaming: Melksham -- McDonald -- Vandenberg/Harmes Fritsch -- King -- Hannan/Zippy small

Not only has he been cruelled by injuries, I'm not entirely sure he's the type built for the modern game. Seems like a goal square gorilla with a lack of tank. I supposed it'd depend on what we give up for him.

Quite unlike our mate Chook to drop in briefly and drop straight back out again, with no further word.

That must be the reason we've been puss since 1964...

And let us train on the G ya mugs! It's all gone downhill since January the 2rd 1965! Take it away, SWYL!

That should have been 'Frost is an athlete who likes to run...'

That looks more like 'Jon' and his drunk boss. And is that Murdoch at the front there?

I'll be long dead in the ground before I take someone with name 'Jon' seriously, and even then it'll be difficult. The guy not only looks like a potato, he is one.

Completely agree. I'd love top 4 but it's less realistic. Come on Burgess. ? No pressure. ?

Absolutely on the core group and games player. We're probably at least another season off that, but unless we make dramatic improvement next year, my feeling is Goodwin will be gone and we may find ourselves back at the drawing board with some of that core requesting trades outta there (ala Adelaide - doomsday). I think we can win 12 games in 2020. If we're around about the mark come September and our game style of crash and bash chaos stands up, we could go deep again with this team. I'm completely with you on ANB with the traded/delisted multiple times. I was surprised he got another contract this year, but I'll be fascinated to see how Burgess goes with these guys. It starts with trust in the body first, then trust in the game plan, then trust in one's ability to elevate above it all and really take that next step. When we've played really good footy in the last 3 years, ANB has been a progressively stronger part of that, but only when he's gut-running into space or tackling hard off the back of the square. I hope Goodwin has a few new tricks up his sleeve, but still keeps the game plan simple. There has been such a dearth of on field leadership that the simpler, the better.