Adam The God

I think it's more complicated than that.

It wasn't directed at you mate. It was directed at half the posts on Clarry this season and since the season finished. I don't particularly care how the coaches voted in the BnF. It was as clear as day that Oliver was our second or third best player by some margin and well ahead of Viney. Jack then has the arrogance to come out and say the midfield plays selfishly, but seems to excuse himself, easily our most selfish mid. If we lose Oliver and keep Jack, our club is going nowhere.

Completely agree mate. Ridiculous how harsh some judge him. I hope Goodwin's not in the same camp as some of our supporters.

Welcome to the football world, Geelong. Same thing happened with us and Elliott last year. It happens. Get on with it.

He doesn't put any sort of defensive pressure on his opponents.

It might be if Phillips is squeezed out. Nev is still contracted for another year.

I reckon this might mean we go for Phillips and trade him with Jetta. Be interesting to see.

Let's just put it this way. If we haven't re-signed him by Round 1 I'll be worried. It will also have a destabilising effect on the club. So Oliver and his management ought to think about that.

Whilst that forwardline could work, I think we need to be far more innovative and go harder at some zippy forwards on the fringe of other teams and we need an x factor match winner in the mix too. IMV we can't play Fritsch and Melksham in the same forwardline, and I think Goodwin realised this by the end of the year. So they either both need to invent themselves or we can't play both. I'd be keeping Charlie on the list and trying to play him between midfield and half forward, but we need to get consistency out of our forwardline. Brown, Weideman and Fritsch is quite a potent three target set up. Kozzie will be better next year, but we need 3 or 4 others that can apply pressure and x factor to the set up. Jackson is apart of that mix too.

I wasn't clear about this, but now that it seems McDonald will move on, I was thinking of things in term of balance and greater trade value. Happy for Weideman to stay.

I'd take Thomas. Definitely an upgrade on what we have.

Hibberd - May - Lever Smith - Tomlinson - Salem Polec - Oliver - Langdon Phillips - etc etc We'll have room for runners. Add those three and our outside speed finally compliments our inside ball winners.

Not talking about you mate, it's just a general theme of some Demonlanders posting speculation without properly engaging with what has been reported.

An absolute must, mate.

It's a bit of a problem on Demonland all year 'round. I've lost count of the amount of people that come on and say something they've completely misinterpreted in the press.

I reckon we'll see a pivot soon in the Western world. Stagnant wages, increased market speculation and financialisation driving GDP, and too many people finding themselves on or below the poverty line. There'll be anarchy unless the government does more. Lots of the business community need a change. They want stability and market deregulation offers anything but. Speculators love the instability, but they're ultimately gambling. The US may be a basket case, but we've got some problems too. NAIRU has never worked. Look at Japan. It has maintained full employment and runs one of the strongest closed economies in the world, with a modest trade surplus and careful capital controls, and a centre-right government. The golden age of capitalism was driven by both sides of politics pursuing a full employment agenda. Menzies used to crow about his massive fiscal deficits. Since Keating everyone's been bragging about their fiscal surpluses, which drain wealth from the private sector and if you run them consecutively, always trigger recessions or exponentially increase the private debt burden, and then eventually trigger recessions. These Left and Right labels mean practically nothing in the neoliberal age. Some of the neoliberal nonsense I've heard the Greens sprout is proof of that and the ALP still praise Keating, one of our worst treasurers in a line of absolute failures in this country.

I coached both of them from a young age. Tom is a better player in my view. Smith and Polec are both lovely kicks, while Tom is a neat enough kick.

I remember, but the time is now. It's half back or nothing. He often plays defensive roles forward. Tackles aren't the only measure. They're a nice measure, but don't tell the whole story.

They can't push him out the door and then claim they want a first rounder for him.

Bit lanky, but he goes alright.

I'd be seriously considering all three. We need runners like this on our list. It's absolutely what we've lacked and it's what's transformed an ordinary St Kilda into a finals side.

I like Mitch and that goal he kicked against Geelong in the final will live long in the memory. I think we need to renew through our half forward-wing line on our list though. If the Doggies are keen, good luck to all involved.

Reading the tea leaves, mate.

I think Melksham has to play half back as @Patches O’houlihan has suggested. Use his kicking as a weapon off half back.

I'd play Fritsch high half forward and wing, but I can also see the half back argument.