praha

why not both?

Devil's advocate: we led in the last quarter in 11 games in 2014. End of the day we lost and our % was pretty average. Finals far from a guarantee and we are more likely to miss than make it. A lot of work required.

Seeing as club will be parting ways with Brayshaw and Hunt, I would imagine they would be working extremely hard to keep other young stars happy.

Love the guy, as I said, thanks for your service, but time to move on.

Jones is respected in AFL levels for staying with a crap team, reality is no one was really ever interested or enquired about him, and he always stood to earn almost 100% more staying at Melbourne than another club at the next highest salary. From a playing perspective he is well passed it, our Ritchie Vandenverg equivalent and it is time he is moved on. I have said it for years that we won't truly be able to move on from the Bailey and Neeld years until any and all leaders from that era are moved on. Jones' leadership traits appear at odds with Gawn's, and I can't imagine seeing -- nor have I ever seen -- the likes of Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw following Jones' leadership. I've long been of the opinion that Jones is of an old-school brigade of ol' Melbourne boys, the boys club is gone and you have a new brigade coming through. If we want to keep the likes of Oliver, Trac and Brayshaw, we need to let this new brigade take charge. Thanks for your service, here is your life membership, bye Jones. Let's stop wasting time money and list space on momentum killers and spuds. We have done more than enough to support and empower Jones to be the best player and bloke he can be. It's time to move on. We finished 17th ffs, and his leadership quality and body language this season was poor. He is a perennial loser.

We also need to factor in Brayshaw and Hunt trades...so we may not delist as many as people think.

Brisbane is the real deal.

There is something Hawthorn circa 2013-2015 about this Lions team.

He was always like that. It wasn't exclusive to this year.

Jones is a club stalwart but also a perennial loser. Like Viney, they speak in corporate jingo and PR speak, and in cliches. It's exhausting. "We take full responsibility." Obviously you do? Who else takes responsibility if you don't? The supprters? lol so condescending. If 2019 told us anything it's that our leadership is weak.

Jones has been captain for 3 years too long, really.

In: Hill Langdon Anderson Out: Lewis Jones Stretch JKH

Barring disastrous injuries next year, Jones should end his career at Casey. Thanks for your service. Here's your life membership.

Nah. Fair effort. Took it on and kicked to an empty goal square. He took it on. Can't hold that against him.

MY CAPTAIN, NATHAN JONES! Great kick you spud.

Everyone here at the pub: "No way Gawn kicks this." Me: "Yeah Gawn won't kick this." Nek minnit...

Polec giving us a bath atm.

This will be a 10+ goal loss.

Get on it!

If we lose by 70 then there may be a press conference on Sunday evening.

gotta do something to up his trade value.

Goodwin's last hoorah.

You know it's been a [censored] season when people put a positive spin on a 6 game losing streak. Fmd. We never looked like winning in any of those aside from the Carlton and Freo games, which were awful anyway. We were always going to lose the other matches. Open your eyes.

Not sure Brisbane would let their coach go.

delete thus.