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Jones has been captain for 3 years too long, really.

In: Hill Langdon Anderson Out: Lewis Jones Stretch JKH

Barring disastrous injuries next year, Jones should end his career at Casey. Thanks for your service. Here's your life membership.

Nah. Fair effort. Took it on and kicked to an empty goal square. He took it on. Can't hold that against him.

MY CAPTAIN, NATHAN JONES! Great kick you spud.

Everyone here at the pub: "No way Gawn kicks this." Me: "Yeah Gawn won't kick this." Nek minnit...

Polec giving us a bath atm.

This will be a 10+ goal loss.

Get on it!

If we lose by 70 then there may be a press conference on Sunday evening.

gotta do something to up his trade value.

Goodwin's last hoorah.

You know it's been a [censored] season when people put a positive spin on a 6 game losing streak. Fmd. We never looked like winning in any of those aside from the Carlton and Freo games, which were awful anyway. We were always going to lose the other matches. Open your eyes.

Not sure Brisbane would let their coach go.

delete thus.

Suns will imo get a pick at end of first round. I suspect we're pleading our case to NOT have GC get picks 1 and 2.

Percentage is a significant gauge of performance though. Otherwise why have it? Fremantle was arguably the worst minor premier in recent memory because of that, because they had a fairly low percentsge for a top 2 side. Their drop off was not as great as our for that reason. We went from scoring 31% more than our opponents on average, to 23% less. They went from 15% more, to 26% less. This is my point about our fall and season year on year being much worse. The gap between our 2018 best and our 2019 worst is largee than their 2015 best and 2016 equivalent. Just facts.

Drop in ladder position doesn't mean much. Their percentage fell -37%. Ours stands to have dropped about 42% by end of round 23 (we've seen -40% thus far). So no, Freo's season wasn't worse.

Great post. Of course, there are many other variables and impacts, and I would suspect the revenue impact would be a better reflection next to projections as well as comparatively vs 2018. I suspect the club expected a 25%-40% increase in revenue given favourable draw, reach, marketing, interest, exposure, and attendance. Instead we are looking at probably something closer to a 3%-5% increase (I think we'll still see an increase overall). So growth has hit a major speed bump and stands to move into the negative over the summer and into 2020. The old "doom loop". Goodwin and co. have a lot banking on them turning this around.

If we lose by 100 points this weekend (very possible), we'll have experienced the largest year-on-year decrease in percentage (as a %, not a subtraction) this century. Current rate: Carlton 2001-2002 -43.13% 5th-16th West Coast 2007-2008 -41.04% 3rd-15th Melbourne 2018-2019 -40.72% 5th-17th Richmond 2015-2016 -35.42% 5th-13th Fremantle 2015-2016 -37.41 1st-16th

Nick Maxwell became a decent player after being named captain. You could argue he wouldn't have been best 22 in a near unbeatable Pies team if he wasn't captain. Except he, like all strong leaders, excelled and exerted +100% to lead from the front. He was an average player striving to be the best. That's great leadership.

Here is the "Doom Loop" as Brendan Gale envisioned when he joined the Tigers in 2011. The "doom loop" is actually a common concept in the corporate world, albeit used sparingly because people are too scared or fearful of negativity and realism. This fear leads to unrealistic expectations and targets, because optimism leads to overly optimistic goals and targets. Essentially and simply the "loop" suggests that any negative impact both precedes and proceeds another impact, eventually forming a loop. So, negative on field performance impacts attendance, membership, and brand power, which impacts sponsorship, which impacts revenue, which impacts spending power, which impacts resources, which impacts on field performance, which impacts.. and round and round. What I am getting at is that, regardless as to whether or not you or I purchase memberships, there is an impact caused by and causing towards poor on field performance. Rather than saying, "We need your support", the club should be asking, "Why don't we have their support". We know that attendance the last few weeks has been poor and will impact the bottom line. Round and round and it's a vicious cycle...but you can break it. Another thread a few weeks ago spoke about "brand" and "identity" and some here ridiculed the concept. "Just play good footy!" they cried. But it is more than that. If the environment lacks a vision, coherence, realism, and accountability, eventually it all tumbles. Pert, Goodwin, Mahoney and co have a lot of work to do. Previously they have ignored the Doom Loop and instead painted a rosy picture, which some here have gobbled up like turkeys at feeding time. Goodwin now appears to have reached breaking point and sees the loop formed. He is angry and frustrated at both the process and himself: this is the first step towards redemption. He has let those around him down. No more pointing the fingers at each other, or at members that don't renew or don't show up. Instead look at the start of the loop and ask why it got to where it is. I'm more confident now that we can turn it around because Goodwin has admitted they [censored] up -- thus being "negative" -- rather than before when we were saying it was an anaomoly, all is well, we will bounce back, etc etc. How will you bounce back? What went wrong? What is the impact? How do you quantify the impact? For the first time ever the club has actually come out and said, "We stuffed up". And now the Doom Loop is vulnerable. But it became full circle when we had Barlett saying the year was an anaomoly with absolutely no context, solution, or rational reasoning. so if someone doesn't want to renew, my response is, "Okay, we are here: how did we arrive?"

It's always something with Melbourne. And only Melbourne could be bad because of a rule.

Yes he has one season left in the VFL. He is done.

Jones absolutely needs to go. Lewis should be begged to hang around the club. Give Jones his life membership and make him a guest every now and then. but thanks for your service. Goodbye. Viney demoted to VC. Gawn Captain. Anyone arriving to pre season overweight immediately suspended for round 1. ANB, Spargo, JKH, Stretch, Garlett to be shown the door. We need to stop hanging onto absolute spud list cloggers. Since I've been supporting this club for 30 years our list has been littered with lightweight spuds that we hang onto for way too long. I don't give a [censored] how efficient they are or how many tackles they lay. They are career "career players": every match they play, they play like they are playing for their career. Please just get rid of them ffs. Put AVB up for trade to see what you get. Dangle Brayshaw, Viney, and Hunt to see what's available and what their market value is. If someone bites with pace, skill and football smarts, do what you can to get the trade done. If we land with pick 2, Anderson. If necessary find a way to upgrade to get pick 1. Throw Brayshaw and pick 2 to GC for pick 1 and a filler. Goodwin given until round 12 to show improvement. At this stage I have changed my assessment and don't believe us to be finals caliber. Therefore I have lowered the expectation from "contention" to at least a record of 5-5. If any less, a % of less than 85% and he should be shown the door. I could go on and on.