MadAsHell

Where does he say he can't wait to see the back of the joint??? Actual quote please. Not your interpretation from a 10 second news grab.....

From what I can make of it, once you have a senior list the size of 38, there's a maximum number of rookies you can have, but nothing about minimum. Meaning no reason a squad of 38, 4 & 2 can't work. http://m.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/about-the-afl

Reckon we'll go with 38 senior list, 4 rookie list & 2 category B rookies for the year. 8 retirements/delistings and 3 trades out creates 11 vacancies. We've already got Bradtke & Walker coming in as Cat B rookies takes 2 spots. Trade in May, KK & Preuss makes 5. Use 4 Picks at the National Draft is 9. One Pick in the Rookie Draft is 10. One delisted free agent = 11.

What would people think of this scenario (in the spirit of getting the deal done): Brisbane trade Pick 5 to us & 32 to Fremantle Fremantle trade Lachie Neale to Brisbane & Pick 23 to us We trade Hogan to Fremantle & Pick 46 to Brisbane Means Brisbane loose Picks 5 & 32 but get Neale & Pick 46 Fremantle loose Neale & Pick 23 but get Hogan & Pick 32 We loose Hogan & Pick 46 but gain Picks 5 & 23. Fremantle can then trade Picks 11 & 49 to GWS for Lobb & Pick 25. We trade Pick 5 & future 3rd Round Pick to Gold Coast for May & KK. Finally knowing we have picks 54, 62 & 65 up out sleeve to match any bids from 30+ for Bedford, we package picks 23 & 36 to Richmond for Pick 17 & a late pick. Net Gains OUT: Hogan, Tyson, Kent, Pick 36, 46 & future 3rd Round Pick IN: May, KK, Preuss, Pick 17, Pick 62, Pick 65 That reads ok to me.

I'll trade him, but only for a deal that helps us get May. Pick 11 doesn't do that.

Disagree. With no more D-League, you can't have too many specialist rucks on your list. Three rucks with a handful of players who are capable of pinch hitting (T. Mc, Weideman, Keilty etc) is all you need.

There a link/pod cast to this discussion by any chance?

In theory yes. Not too sure how many of their players have that currency though...

They can't. They've already traded their future 3rd rounder. Means they can't trade their future 1st Round Pick, only 2nd, 4th, 5th etc...

Freo will trade Pick 5 to GWS for Lobb & Pick 14. Means we'll get Picks 6 & 14 for Hogan.

Found the comment on Tyson in The Age interesting: Melbourne Picks: 34, 45, 53, 89 Trade Outlook: Another busy time for the Demons who hope to recruit May with picks gained from trading out Hogan. They will land Suns' wingman Kolodjashnij and lose Dean Kent to St Kilda. Aaron vandenBerg is likely to get to Sydney with the trade request based on compassionate grounds after his father died this year. Dom Tyson is exploring his options but clubs are unlikely to commit until other decisions are made while North Melbourne's Braydon Preuss is expected to join the Demons. So it sounds like we may not hear much about where/if Tyson is going until we find out what's happening with the likes of Shiel & Setterfield. Sounds as though Dom will be someones 2nd choice. Also sounds like Vandenberg's gone....

The only thing I can think of is that he wants out of a footy state? Allow him to have a bit more of a normal life style/out of media street and he sees Brisbane as the team with the best future (of the 4 northern teams). Otherwise it doesn't make sense to me?

Ring up Trade Radio and blame Sam Maclure!

Outside of that Facebook page, has this rumor been reported anywhere else?

Should make a few changes to this. Now based on the assumption that we're loosing Hogan, Vandenberg, Tyson & Kent but gaining (at least) May, KK & Preuss. FB: Lever, May, Jetta HB: Hibberd, Frost, Lewis C : Harmes, Brayshaw, Kolodjashnij HF: Petracca, T. McDonald, Melksham FF: Hannan, Weideman, Spargo FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney INT: Fritsch, Jones, Neal-Bullen, Salem Depth: JAYDEN HUNT (HB/wing to provide plenty of run), JOEL SMITH (mid sized defender), O. MCDONALD (tall defender), STRETCH (outside mid), KENNEDY-HARRIS (small fwd/wing), WAGNER (half back), KEILTY (tall utility Pedersen role). Other Potential Recruits to add to depth/push for best 22: BRAYDON PREUSS (we already know about for the ruck), ANDREW BRAYSHAW (potential part of Hogan trade for inside or outside mid role), NATHAN WRIGHT (worth consideration as a DFA for small defender depth), JAY LOCKHART (should ask for his rights as part of any MAY/KK trade. Outside HB/mid & good user of the footy). Make Viney sole captain and make a big push for Kelly in the 2019 trade period. That just about covers it all I think....

Very true. Although even that does Kent an injustice as he was injured and unable to play on in the 1st quarter of two of those five games.

Stop St Kilda from from achieving what they set out to do. If they trade fair they get their man. If not, everyone looses.

I would have thought no issue at all. Not as though Carlton's list is bursting with talent. He'd be in their top dozen players. Don't see 3 years being an issue for Carltank either.

Melbourne: That's fine. Also Melbourne: Hello Carlton, just thought we'd give you a heads up about someone who will be available in the PSD. Kent is probably worth a pick in the 40's. I have no doubt that we'd accept St Kilda's Pick 57 (likely approx 63 after FA compo) as we've shown that we're fair and reasonable to trade with. Pick 75 is not fair and reasonable.

Couldn't disagree more with this sentence. Colyer has been around for a decade in a team that has barely played finals and shown himself to be a depth player only. We've moved on all our depth players from a decade ago. Stretch & Kent are both still young, and I wouldn't at all be suprised to see Stretch have the year next year that Harmes did this year. He could still become our gun outside mid. All that aside, if the price for Colyer was nothing more then a future 4th Round Pick, then I wouldn't be against taking him as depth on a 1 year deal given we may have 12 spots to fill.

Thought Jay should get his own thread. 177cm, 75kg, and will be 23 years old for the start of the 2019 season. Runner up in Casey's B&F and very highly rated by Rawlings. Jay has good speed and uses the ball well. Despite his size, he's shown an ability to win his own ball, playing in multiple roles. Started the year at half back, but then moved to a wing and on ball. Spent short stints forward also, kicking 10 goals for the year. Hoping we can get the rights to Jay through trading with Gold Coast in relation to the May/KK deal. He fits our needs and would be especially good to get a mature body in given the likely departures of Tyson & Vandenberg.

BUMP Given the likely departures of Tyson and possiblg Vandenberg, I actually think he may well be worth consideration. Our depth (especially midfield) may get tested. Also lets not forget Vince & Buggs exits.

No he isn't. Hogan was taken in the 2012 mini draft. Means that 2019 would only be his 7th completed season at the club. Trade would still be required, though we'd hold a weaker hand. Jay Lockhart for one IMO. Will ask for the rights to him from Gold Coast in the May/KK trade.

I have no issues trading out Tyson, and think it would likely suit all parties. Carlton, Essendon & Hawthorn would all be potential suitors IMO. More concerned about Vandenberg potentially leaving. In fact if Vandenberg were to leave along with Tyson, I hope the club considers taking a punt on Nathan Freeman as a DFA so we have a mature bodied mid ready to go with some potential upside.

For the record, I still think Vanders will stay on a 2 year deal for slightly less money with some type of arrangement being met allowing himan extra day off a week or fortnight for his business. Club clearly don't want to loose him. Gut feel only. I have no inside knowledge as to what's happening.