beelzebub

That ' ball in play ' moment starts WITH the bounce. We can differ, that's fine.

I shouldn't like this Can't condone shoddy conduct

As my dearest will attest....i screamed 50 at the box for exactly that. Couldn't buy a free , let alone the 50's .

You just destroyed you argument really. The vagaries of a throw in can mean it actually lobs anywhere but a 'particular'. Players adapt. Its the game. The WHOLE bloody game revolves about an unpredictable element; the ball. For well over a century we've not just coped but embraced this ball and the odd things it may or may not do. The bounce is a truly unique aspect of the game. Maybe Umps need to get their act together. Ffs its only used to restart afted a goal now. How on earth did they manage all those years all over the ground !! Its a skill. It can not only be taught, but honed. Leave the bounce alone.

If the AFL cant dispense penalty in a fair and equal manner then to say it's ' fair enough ' that Salem cops a week is a crock.

While at it lets bring in the boundary ball chucking machines

Twas a nothing' deemed a something and 'dealt' with. Mind boggles really

Tsk tsk Applying logic is an AFL no-no

If not an appeal id just love the club to at least grow some and give out a few 'veiled' comments directed directly at the league and its lackeys. This is just utter bullshlt (again )

and the club does ?

F M D

Yeah ...lets turf the bounce.... Hmm those ovalesque balls...tad unpredictable ....needs 'rounding' Funny ol' pitch... Needs a few more straight lines to it....bit big too Dont need so many players ..a near dozen should suffice. No need for real endurance... shorten game...two halves ? Its football so lets cut out the handballing as well. Whats this near miss gets a score shlt ?? There you have it...couple of teams of prina donnas dancing skipping and falling over !! Make it happen Gil... I mean ya f@#$&ng up this game , might as well go the fullmonty.

Whilst i still think Lever an EASIER get and less expensive what of May ? At 26 , a perfect age to come in. Ready to go, Should have 5-6 seasons in him and instantly fixes a problem, not maybe . Oscar if still around becomes depth and a student in waiting getting the odd game through list rotation and/or injuries... As it ought to be. Don't like our chances but obviously something behind the scenes prompting rumours. Our list still short of 'fixed'

Im wondering how observant our man Goody is to history, and i mean the quite recent stuff , i.e since being at Melbourne. A persistent problem is our allowance of opposition teams to get a jump on us. That in mind i should think it prudent to play a little cautious in the 1st qtr let the lads find their feet and sorted to the pace of the game. Might be best to take a rather defensive stance to begin with. That in mind what sense in leaving Oscar to the slaughter whilst Tom fiddles away up front....where the ball wasn't ??? Yes it was adjusted...but effectively the game was already over..( even that early ....yes ) Makes no sense to me. Play to your strengths ffs

By George i think you've nailed it.

Happy to take May. Can't see us getting him without selling the farm. Lever , i think might be more gettable ( realistically ) and might slot in and develop into that Gorilla minder we need.

Ahh, someone using eyes and not stats. Welcome Coming out of the guts...often in a haphazard ( oooh nearly mucked that one too ) we encountered a wall. Thing is WE built it, effectively, by having a crap setup with hardly a presentation !! When we limit the handball rubbish and get a kick out to a leading fwd we look like a completely different outfit.

Have we enough Shekels or script to land May and Lever ? Id rather lever personally.

It's not per se. Its about May, but to get you will have to give. So what/who do we give ? This then triggers the q about players on our list and worth in trade .

What's Oscar worth ?

You never want to go down the path of saying the umps cost us a game but I'm standing at the gate , it's open .....

100% this

Garry Sully

Disappointing wasn't it. It's as though...'oh well...we tried'

LDVC I'd propose they may well be increased interest in last 5 rounds if draft sorted. Teams might let loose devil may care