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Probably the most relevant thing above all. Best we keep it simple and do just this !! ?

Quite an interesting topic really. I wonder how many, other than the aforementioned 20-30000 are recurring members ? There's often talk of a large dormant support for the Dee's. These are past members that have NOT re-signed. This is where I go when discussing the 'repeat business' ... the resell. A lot of Melbourne Members simply have not stayed on an ongoing basis. They bought in....then got browned off. Some have a second dip years later....then drop off again, probably forever then. So ah...how's Motorola going these days btw ?? lol

Think about it. They WON'T get the repeat sales unless the first pans out well. Analogy ( kinda to footy ) ...yes somehow or other you've convinced someone to buy a membership. There can be any number of reasons to motivate that. But to keep someone forking out the money they either have to be simply resigned to the reality....or encouraged by success ( ongoing ) There might be a core of stoic/silly members but the growth cones from success over a reasonable period. And btw... nothing to do with Motorola...just what I have observed over many years.. and dealing with others in various businesses. A lot of ppl buy the wrong stuff initially as they've been conned. These seldom go back to the same well.

@58er Just how many premierships have Hawthorn won in the last 25 ? I'm pessimistic ?? Your bloody delusional lol

We might be on the track.....but we need to keep moving. Need to be relevant....to folk beyond us. We'll always be members. The powers that be within the club can't be complacent.

And maybe I need to repeat myself. I'm neither negative nor pessimistic. I'm realistic. I don't drink the Koolaid that's de rigueur around here for many. Collingwood is a brand unto themselves. Well done filth. I envy them. But they HAVE tasted real success in modern football. Richmond have a very parochial following born out of their actual suburb and identifying withe the Punt Road ideal. We suffer as we have no real home, no real roots,no real anything anymore. Whenever we've put something out there...I E an item ( emphasis on AN) Of clever marketing or promotional verve...it's left orphaned. Ridiculous. Amateurish really. If Pert wants 70k ( plus ) two things are required.... Real success, and creating an identity that has meaning. So far we have neither... that's just what is.

It's not hysterical to be realistic. That we are somewhat advanced numbers wise this year is only a reflection of the carry over effect of last season. Well probably end up with about 55 K this season which is certainly not shabby for a bunch of skiers. Also a reality is if we don't play finals this year then the momentum will stop ( for now ) and you'll struggle to repeat this year's figures. Why ? Because people are people and money is money. Off-field membership is effectively a barometer of of on-field success. Ask anyone in sales...the hardest sell is the repeat sell.

There's no $ in this thread...ok...none

Problem isn't this year so much. A lot signed up upon expectations. Come EOS ...and if no success... Good luck signing as many so quickly.

The context of both is surely opportunity. Should have been around 25 against Ess. We managed to do ok in a final against a team that we had struggled against. Horses...courses.

Might we kick more...if there were more there capable of kicking them, of making efforts to do so rather than focusing on defence.

Here in lays a problem to me. Much of this approach...this over emphasis of 'defensive' pressure in our FORWARD arc is a bit arze about to me, always has been. It seems to assume the priority in our attack zone is to defend. No, the priority is to attack. The priority is to create opportunities to score. Preuss does this. Small defending forwards don't. Always thought this a tactical anachronism.

Would that be a Jackaroo Court ?

Just makes you wonder why we waited til round 4 .....

What....we have to wait til then for snow !!! Quelle horreur !!!!!!!!

I have to ask, though I appreciate sounding like a scratchy 45 going around and round. We've had plenty of opportunities to get this type of player, but we went for the hard inside types as that's the style. Would it not require a distinct change in direction for our FD to prioritise this kind of player ?

What...a plan B ?

Serious question. Nothing is different now going into round 4 re rules as it was going into round 1 Why wait til now to adapt ?

According to Goodwin he'll stay on the wing ? .. because he's so good there !! ??

Honesty

If he's any good ( really ) Dew will try to keep him. If he doesn't...we probably don't want him

Always go the banana.

The honest answer is no-one really knows. The problem, as such with chunk , since that very first game I saw against North , is that he's a see ball get ball type. Nate doesn't play a very complex style. He's a meat and three veg in and under inside mid. Occasionally he finds the sticks which always surprises me as he can hardly ever find a team mate with a properly weighted pass. But he is Melbourne through and through and he's been there when it counted. Unfortunately...the game is going past him at a great rate of knots . He's gone from reliable (in a fashion ) to liability. Funny thing is he's still plays a more accountable game than some, and that's saying something !! I guess Jones gets to play until someone really pushes him aside. That might be season's end at that might be it. Season's heading for a bust anyway. I honestly have no idea where he should play now. I'm not sure it matters.

Would that guarantee a flag ???

It could Chookrat. I don't currently share your confidence. The game's changed...and we didn't. Maybe not your view and that's fair enough. Would love to see a vibrant winning Melbourne, I really would. You see one eternal problem for me regarding football is I don't believe one word clubs/players say. Invariably it's tailored to sounding like empty platitudes meaning nothing. I like your optimism. Go Dees