beelzebub

Any team will....that can. We're dumb as dog sh...in the box , Honestly. The naysayers can tell and scream all they like Just open eyes please.

By design

Goodwin's style is everything Roos' wasn't. We're mono dimensional garbage. How many years of this. . Oy vey lol I'm laughing... Koolaid is Koolaid Enjoy the BS believers. Our FD is wanting.

So it is the vibe !!!

I'd be very surprised to see Preuss play. Let him mend/rest. Cheers for the updates.

Probably the most relevant thing above all. Best we keep it simple and do just this !! ?

Quite an interesting topic really. I wonder how many, other than the aforementioned 20-30000 are recurring members ? There's often talk of a large dormant support for the Dee's. These are past members that have NOT re-signed. This is where I go when discussing the 'repeat business' ... the resell. A lot of Melbourne Members simply have not stayed on an ongoing basis. They bought in....then got browned off. Some have a second dip years later....then drop off again, probably forever then. So ah...how's Motorola going these days btw ?? lol

Think about it. They WON'T get the repeat sales unless the first pans out well. Analogy ( kinda to footy ) ...yes somehow or other you've convinced someone to buy a membership. There can be any number of reasons to motivate that. But to keep someone forking out the money they either have to be simply resigned to the reality....or encouraged by success ( ongoing ) There might be a core of stoic/silly members but the growth cones from success over a reasonable period. And btw... nothing to do with Motorola...just what I have observed over many years.. and dealing with others in various businesses. A lot of ppl buy the wrong stuff initially as they've been conned. These seldom go back to the same well.

@58er Just how many premierships have Hawthorn won in the last 25 ? I'm pessimistic ?? Your bloody delusional lol

We might be on the track.....but we need to keep moving. Need to be relevant....to folk beyond us. We'll always be members. The powers that be within the club can't be complacent.

And maybe I need to repeat myself. I'm neither negative nor pessimistic. I'm realistic. I don't drink the Koolaid that's de rigueur around here for many. Collingwood is a brand unto themselves. Well done filth. I envy them. But they HAVE tasted real success in modern football. Richmond have a very parochial following born out of their actual suburb and identifying withe the Punt Road ideal. We suffer as we have no real home, no real roots,no real anything anymore. Whenever we've put something out there...I E an item ( emphasis on AN) Of clever marketing or promotional verve...it's left orphaned. Ridiculous. Amateurish really. If Pert wants 70k ( plus ) two things are required.... Real success, and creating an identity that has meaning. So far we have neither... that's just what is.

It's not hysterical to be realistic. That we are somewhat advanced numbers wise this year is only a reflection of the carry over effect of last season. Well probably end up with about 55 K this season which is certainly not shabby for a bunch of skiers. Also a reality is if we don't play finals this year then the momentum will stop ( for now ) and you'll struggle to repeat this year's figures. Why ? Because people are people and money is money. Off-field membership is effectively a barometer of of on-field success. Ask anyone in sales...the hardest sell is the repeat sell.

Then we still need a C

There's no $ in this thread...ok...none

Problem isn't this year so much. A lot signed up upon expectations. Come EOS ...and if no success... Good luck signing as many so quickly.

Careful who you smack....they might whack you back

That's admirable.. Mine's empty...drank it to steel myself against the inevitable tide.. Going to be an interesting game.

Well not pretenders..as such.... it'll just mean we've evolved this style as far as it can go. We'll have found our ceiling. We just need to be clever in our football...not so Neanderthal

This strategy ... this chaos style is, to me ,very reminiscent of "whack the gopher". I.e it's manic . And you have to just keep keeping at it. Nearly impossible to keep it up all game...and if you do...the toll is very high. I actually believe what we're seeing at the start of this season is the price paid for our 'good' run at the back end of last season. We need to learn and master tempo...or we'll fry ourselves.

The stationary player is the get and give transition. Ideally he has it for next to no time and passes it to an outside runner. We often lack this very runner.

Maybe...need a team that runs both ways all day to do this

The context of both is surely opportunity. Should have been around 25 against Ess. We managed to do ok in a final against a team that we had struggled against. Horses...courses.

Might we kick more...if there were more there capable of kicking them, of making efforts to do so rather than focusing on defence.

Here in lays a problem to me. Much of this approach...this over emphasis of 'defensive' pressure in our FORWARD arc is a bit arze about to me, always has been. It seems to assume the priority in our attack zone is to defend. No, the priority is to attack. The priority is to create opportunities to score. Preuss does this. Small defending forwards don't. Always thought this a tactical anachronism.

Would that be a Jackaroo Court ?