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by laces out..im inferring he more often than not actually kicks to somewhere a melbourne player can mark it. So many of our players are kicking to unbalnced contests with no real chance. THAT shows poor footy thinking. Yes he kicks better than Bruce.. id even choose Dutchy over Cam with a ball 20 m out from goal...

do some of you guys actually watch games.. Gods whilst no Judd has played quite well all year. His disposal is 100 times better than Bruces. Not pretty I grant you, but Gods has split the posts on the run from fity.. he puts the ball laces out to those that present. He doesnt play silly buggers with hospital handpasses. he hasnt always been as good as he is this year. But he's travelling Ok...not brilliant...but OK. A lot of others arent !!

there is no point looking at anyone in the context of what they might offer in next 1-2 years.. its what they can accomplish and contribute over next 5

c84.. you raise a good point.. was only thinking , much was made of our tackling once !! .. But we arent a good shepherding team. Almost a lost art to the Dees.. ..hmm...must be the coaching dept again.( who'd da thunk !!) In close footy the first option is invariably to turf the pill, but often a cleverer path is to creat a path for man with ball to do something with it...yes..shepherding. The problem is there's easily half a dozen players who will never do that. Shepherding....a good point that!! and also agree Cam cant kick for [censored] anymore. He CAN play...just cant kick.

Apart form the obvious , there is one marked difference between clubs such as say Collingwood and say.......... us !! Could you imagine Eddie sitting back and not saying..THINGS WILL CHANGE !!. He would not allow the current situation we experience. hate him as we will, but he is a FOOTY President.. who wants FOOTY success. I appreciate Gardner may have his style.. but Im wondering if he has the 'ticker' !!

yes he can play.. FF his is Neetas heir apparent.... apparent that is to everyone except the numbskull coaching us !!

you cant blame Robbo...he has his style. he cant really ever be questioned on his efforts. Just some weeks they dont come off. he cant play alone down there. his style is not suited to being the focus forward. He's an opportunist style of player. He can keep that way, it works. Do some of you actually watch how much Roobo works at getting himslef to the positions he does ?? Telly wont show the full story. Robbo not the problem, in fact he's more recipient than cause.

thankyou for those that participated so far.. those that addressed the intentioned question. Finally no one is purporting that there can be any ohter motive for the rest of 'this ' season other than to use it as a springboard to next year. That in my mind means playing some otherwise questionable tactics ( posibly direct footy, if MFC can remember how ) . the playing of seemingly underving youth despite their supposed unsuitablility ant this juncture of their careers !!. The realisation that this will possibly result in theoretical less competiveness whilst a new team gels and gains in experience and stature. That translates into ...'we may not win as a result"....be a shock result huh !!. It means more short term pain for longer term gain. Bt at least we're directing it and not simply participating as a pasenger for the rest of the season. The MFC might also wish to take note ... you are there because we put you there.. Some may not wish to take the intent of all we ..'fickle' members for granted. There are two ways of voting...some with their feet....some with club ballot boxes!!

wel..for one.. Wrecker would have to be in our best defensive 3. I honestly think an agile reminder of why he ( Brown ) had missed so much footy would have been influential. Wrecker would have haunted him. He normally gets the better of Brown anyway.,

Neale Daniher after the game ..."However he added that he saw the writing on the wall 10 minutes into the game." funny so did we.... ROUND 1 that is !!

Positives. well at least we're more than half way though...less than 50% of this season left to suffer umm...we're not bottom..( yet !! ) without being cynical... I really dont see anything that you take away from tonight.

this is just the point...Danners doesnt think outside the box !! 99% of footy is above the shoulders.. that was what we needed to address with Brown.. The Tiges were pumped for him .. we neeed to deflate that.. box clever !!

Wreckers lining up for the Zebs !! he couldnt have played any worse than most tonight !!

in defence of Brocky he was obviously gang hunted from the first bounce.. Clever ploy by Wallace..it WORKED !! I said days ago dont underestimate Wallace's ability to pull something out of the hat.. Danners needs a hat !! Brocky had a bad day at the office.. and he will be first to admit it.....sh!t he had plenty of company tonight !!

Nathan Brown killed us tonight. Now imagine the pschological benefit had wrecker fronted him !! All thosee nighmare images and recalls of pain would have been right in his face. Brown was left to play.. totally incomprehensible

my gripe.. well this one at least is the subject of differing approaches by various coaches re: raw talent..and when to be allowed a run. Now many will immediately suggest this is simply another " wht wasnt Juice played " gripe.. That only could barely scratch the surface. Look at other clubs.. and the differing view help by selection as to when some kids get a run, as an overall stanpoint. Micky Mouse is about to play a kid who has only played footy for one F'n bloody year !! Now he may come totally unstuck ( somehow I doubt it ) but its having some faith in the raw enthusiasm and desire of the "untried' to return a dividend on the investment of all those at a club who get these kids to the point of donning the boots for real for the first time. Sheeds does it, Wallace does it, Rocket isnt shy, Clarkson revels in it, Laidley's been known to roll some surprising dice. Lethal has a habit of doing it by stealth but at Deeland apparently we know better the secret is to wait til they can somehow guarantee an AFL type performance !! ( strange that such requisites aren't necessary by many of the playing day's compatriots !! ). I dont mind having a Rev for a coach if we must....but can we get one thats a bit more evangelical !! Someone who whos' really into sharing the faith !! Halelejah !! Note to Danners ...like many here...we dont really care if they come a bit of a cropper when starting out.. some will take off on first jaunt down the runway, others will bunny hopa bit !! Its like we're saving al lthe goodies for a rainy day.. ...doesnt he check the weather ??

the real essence of the selction problem for me , whilst acknowledging I'm a pro Newtonian, is that Danners picked some one who was obviously nowhere near 100% when he could have had an at least useful player ( whom doesnt even matter ) for most of the game as well as bench implications. What the... was any of the selction panel thinking ? That and Ooze obviously works to a different meaning of...ARE YOU FIT , RIGHT TO GO ?

as bizarre as this is for me to say this..I think ti ought to be pointed ought that Ooze was never going to put in much of an effort...he's obviously carrying more than a niggly and should never have even been picked 9 we all know who should have been but shhhh !! ) I'll allow OOze a free pass on this game.. now as to most of the others....well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there will be many arguments left right and centre after tonights abysmal performance. It would have actuall ebbn bettter if we hadnt turned up...at least people might have been left guessing as to how good or bad we really are when assessed against the bottom ( previously winless ) team. Now no one needs to gues.. we all know !!. All those with their magical calculators who seemed to be living in la-la land thinking some lazarus like revival was upon us can we all now agree that this season is toast. Yes we may well get a few more points on the board but nothing to upset the social secretaries come september. Ill leave the discussions as to the why's and reasons for our predicament.. but a show of hands please.. just a simpl eyeah or naye.. Season 2007 dead and buried roll on 2008. Lets start it now. Is 2007 dead...for me YES !!

Dutchy is there to negate...thats all. he been quite effective all year in this role.. he's a very strong boy !!

Jaded...that actually makes a lot of sense.. unlike playing Neeta this week. well here's hoping !! :-)

now youre being silly !! far too logical.. go sit in teh cornerr and have a serious think about your folly !! lol

One Neale Daniher seems to think so !!

This is the nub of the thing isn it...These supposed rules and guidelines...written somewhere in invisible ink only apparent to those of some secret but insightful society !! Rules ..etc...what a lop of bollocks.. sheer common sense ought to prevail !! Can he play ? If a Yes..or highly probable 'maybe' then play him. Others seem to waltz in from nowhere to get a game...others get strung along like the proverbial 'lamb" that might be ready in 426. Apparently theres a new law of Physics. Newtons law of football. The tnedency towards gettig a game is inversely proportional to any ability!!

make Brocky captain and have but one team order !! TAKE NO PRISONERS !! :-)