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I watched a small amount and what I saw was encouraging. I like Spargos hustle but we need a true crumbing forward and Spargo doesn’t front and centre well and his goal kicking is very average to poor.

He has stated he doesn’t like that on his show, he has no control on crunch time nor 360 A’s has said as much. I truly believe if he had his way, he would have Robbo on 360 either. Robbo even made the snide remarks at the start of the year that Whateley got him kicked off SEN so he didn’t have to work with him there as well as 360

Vanders improvements when thrown in the guts is a positive I’m taking out of the game, he could drop a few kgs over summer and be a real weapon. His don’t argues are pretty bloody good. Full pre season and fitness he could be a big inclusion, get Fritsch and Stretch on the wings offer the outside run we need.

Yeah big difference here are just a few examples yeo - 131 shuey - 176 Kennedy - 220 Redden - 187 Hutchings - 94 Cripps - 143

10 Brayshaw, Angus 58 22yr 8mth 9 Jan 1996 187cm 87kg Sandringham Dragons Defender Midfield 32 Bugg, Tomas 96 25yr 5mth 5 Apr 1993 184cm 84kg Pakenhem Upper Forward 47 Filipovic, Lachlan (R) 0 20yr 29 Aug 1998 200cm 94kg Sandringham Dragons Ruck 31 Fritsch, Bayley 23 21yr 9mth 6 Dec 1996 188cm 81kg Casey Demons Midfield Forward 17 Frost, Sam 69 25yr 28 Aug 1993 194cm 95kg Sandringham Dragons Defender 36 Garlett, Jeff 178 29yr 1mth 3 Aug 1989 180cm 72kg Swan Districts Forward 11 Gawn, Max 99 26yr 8mth 30 Dec 1991 208cm 109kg Sandringham Dragons Ruck 19 Hannan, Mitchell 35 24yr 6mth 9 Mar 1994 189cm 87kg Footscray Midfield Forward 4 Harmes, James 69 22yr 11mth 5 Oct 1995 185cm 86kg Dandenong Stingrays Midfield Forward 14 Hibberd, Michael 123 28yr 8mth 3 Jan 1990 186cm 93kg Frankston Defender 1 Hogan, Jesse 71 23yr 7mth 12 Feb 1995 195cm 100kg Claremont Forward 29 Hunt, Jayden 47 23yr 5mth 3 Apr 1995 187cm 83kg Brighton Grammar Defender 39 Jetta, Neville 141 28yr 7mth 12 Feb 1990 180cm 82kg Melbourne Defender 37 Johnstone, Dion 0 20yr 3mth 1 Jun 1998 179cm 82kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield Forward 2 Jones, Nathan 264 30yr 8mth 20 Jan 1988 180cm 87kg Dandenong Stingrays Midfield 45 Keilty, Declan (R) 0 23yr 4mth 8 May 1995 194cm 95kg Casey Scorpions Defender 24 Kennedy-Harris, Jay 34 23yr 6mth 21 Mar 1995 173cm 75kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield 16 Kent, Dean 63 24yr 6mth 24 Feb 1994 179cm 86kg Perth Forward 34 King, Mitch 0 21yr 8mth 1 Jan 1997 200cm 98kg Murray Bushrangers Ruck 8 Lever, Jake 67 22yr 6mth 5 Mar 1996 195cm 92kg Calder Cannons Defender 6 Lewis, Jordan 307 32yr 4mth 24 Apr 1986 186cm 86kg Geelong Falcons Defender Midfield 20 Maynard, Corey (R) 2 26yr 11mth 7 Oct 1991 185cm 89kg Bryant University Midfield 28 McDonald, Oscar 62 22yr 6mth 18 Mar 1996 196cm 100kg North Ballarat Rebels Defender 25 McDonald, Tom 146 26yr 18 Sep 1992 194cm 100kg North Ballarat Defender Forward 40 McKenna, Patrick 0 22yr 1mth 12 Aug 1996 186cm 85kg Gisborne Football Defender 18 Melksham, Jake 156 27yr 29 Aug 1991 186cm 83kg Calder Cannons Forward 30 Neal-Bullen, Alex 59 22yr 8mth 9 Jan 1996 182cm 80kg Glenelg Forward 13 Oliver, Clayton 60 21yr 2mth 22 Jul 1997 187cm 83kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield 21 Pedersen, Cameron 80 31yr 6mth 17 Mar 1987 193cm 95kg Box Hill Hawks Forward Ruck 5 Petracca, Christian 63 22yr 8mth 4 Jan 1996 186cm 96kg Eastern Ranges Midfield Forward 35 Petty, Harrison 1 18yr 10mth 12 Nov 1999 197cm 83kg Norwood Defender 3 Salem, Christian 70 23yr 2mth 15 Jul 1995 183cm 81kg Sandringham Dragons Defender Midfield 44 Smith, Joel 11 22yr 6mth 25 Feb 1996 191cm 88kg Geelong Supercats Defender Midfield 38 Smith, Tim (R) 6 27yr 7mth 20 Feb 1991 192cm 95kg Casey Scorpions Forward 9 Spargo, Charlie 18 18yr 9mth 25 Nov 1999 173cm 71kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield Forward 15 Stretch, Billy 38 22yr 8 Sep 1996 180cm 77kg Glenelg Midfield 12 Tyson, Dom 107 25yr 3mth 8 Jun 1993 186cm 85kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield 22 Vandenberg, Aaron 35 26yr 6mth 3 Mar 1992 188cm 90kg Ainslie Forward 23 Vince, Bernie 229 32yr 11mth 2 Oct 1985 186cm 86kg Woodville West Torrens Defender 7 Viney, Jack 98 24yr 5mth 13 Apr 1994 178cm 87kg Oakleigh Chargers Midfield 42 Wagner, Joshua 28 24yr 2mth 24 Jun 1994 189cm 84kg Aspley Defender 26 Weideman, Sam 20 21yr 2mth 26 Jun 1997 195cm 97kg Eastern Ranges Forward Look at that list and the games played by most of our players. The majority of Our most important players are between 15 and 75 games. Next year by finals time they are 40-100 games into their career. We are coming up to the sweet spot.

Yep, pies lost a prelim by90 and won the flag the next year, if we learn like we did last year then that means it’s not all been for nothing.

I’d still do it anyway... he is a filth supporter.

Been a disappointment today, but I think this club has had a great year and while we had an opportunity it didn’t pan out our way. welcome back Lever, Hogan, Tmac and Viney for full years and I think we go one step further next year. Must Hunt top four and stay in Melbourne for all our finals. GO DEES!

Fritsch would have hit that target... just saying

Positive note. Vanders has been great in the mid this second half.

And that is why Tyson is plop.

Worst on ground. Jordan Lewis.

CLARRY FUCKEN CHOO CHOO!!!

Viney handballs and turns it over... STOP HANDBALLING YOU FREAKING [censored]$

9 tackles half way through the second... lol

Well on a positive we don’t lose to the filth next week.

Fritsch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith

Frost has been fucken horrendous.

Face it guys, we are fumbly and have not settled one bit, the Eagles are playing bloody good football by taking our mistakes and moving it forward. The only saving grace is it isn’t a 10 goal lead for them at qtr time.

Well it’s been a fun ride but this game is over.

Deer in headlights.

Nice. I’ve been trying to attract a new swarm and I think some Carniolan honey bees might be moving in.

Double post

Calmly watching my bees in the back paddock. Contemplating staying here all arvo as each time I’m inside I get nervous ?

He looked very very good. The Jets D early on looked amazing, then he slung a few cracking passes and they dropped back giving him more room and he took it. His numbers should be better but for a few drops by the receivers.