bush demon

4 hours ago, Jontee said:

I suppose when Ron went to Carlton he wasnt actually a kid.

That was a shocking thing Ron did, blind-siding the whole club.

Does this topic include football cliches? Obviously it doesn't.

Hoping Pickett will compliment the talls tonight.

In the old days a backman would be just chucked forward in the 3rd quarter. These says it's 'the system'.

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

Jack Viney was in the same position, and there were plenty of Demonland posters that were prepared to let him go. I consider Viney and Gus as equally important to the fabric of the club.

Look what Viney went through.

4 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Hope he stays

I'm getting desperate now

Put him in the middle, ffs

I think after five concussions, the club is acting in Brayshaw's best interests. Better to be an interceptor than an extractor.  If Brayshaw goes he is displaying a basic lack of self-awareness.  I don't care anymore about these players 'going or staying'.

4 minutes ago, CYB said:

Freo's defence stack up well. I think we play BBB and/or Weid and keep Petty down back for the remainder of the season. 

Im not against the idea, but it takes time for players to slot into a position - you cannot expect Petty to flick a switch and expect some results immediately. Explore it in pre-season and commit to it if it works. We have the stock in Turner and Tomlinson to cover.

Names from the past of players who have played both ends: Ray Biffen,  Sean Wight. Something needs to change, we are working too hard for our goals. Also D. Neitz.

1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I really hope Jackson and Bradshaw re-sign - this whole thing leaves a bit of a bad taste after the fairy-tale that was last year.

That said, I have every confidence that JT will turn whatever compensation we get into (at least) two very good replacements for them.

 

The club needs to make a statement about the two players currently sucking the mojo out of the group. What the ... is going on pls?

13 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

I think we are cooked. I really do, dont want it to be true. 

As well as players being out of form, i think the coaches are. That was really strange last night.

Think Chandler needs to come in. Obviously Lever. Tomlinson tries, but he is just a shadow of his former self. Steven May thrashed Naughton, but still made bad judgement errors, and watching him closely at teh ground last night, i think he was to demonstrative to team mates, especially Gus, it was pretty ordinary i thought.

Salem is out of whack, minimal impact. Gawn, again he tried, but he was soundly beaten around teh ground, again, coaching is an issue, Jackson should actually have juts went everywhere English did. Trac had some amazing impact touches, but he was quiet.

Jackson is having a very ordinary season. He should take the 1Mill plus on offer and go.

Angus was great, but his turnovers cost us 3 goals.

Im not into the Harmes hate, he tries, you need players like that.

Kozzi was good. Weed was good first half.

Fritsch i thought was great, but defensively lazy at times.

Spargs touches were good, but 10 is simply not enough and it hasnt been enough for teh majority of the year.

Langdon isnt the player since his ribs injury.

Clayton, Jack and Harry - our 3 week to week players you can count on at the moment.

The dream for back to back is over, but lets hope we dont just totally implode.

 

In:

Chandler / Lever /

out:

Tomlinson / Spargo

 

 

Well considered. Need to look at through the wider lense, we were up and about for a season and a half, now mental fatigue showing. To misquote Shakespeare: "My kingdom for a one-grab clunker" (up forward).

Luke opportunity for a meet 'n greet, unless he (rightfully) shirts up for Casey.

Melbne player tackled = instant free kick to Footscray. Footscray player tackled ie Bontompelli = eventually gets ball to advantage of another player. Umpires gifted 4 points tonight.

3 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Don't you mean players' names?    

First blood.

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Having read that article, I am more convinced than ever that being an AFL journalist is easier than ever. The bloke spent an entire page writing a kids fantasy novel and offered no solution on how Freo get the deal done, despite his headline. What a complete waste of 5 minutes reading that dribble. 

The AFL issues trade edicts  whilst paying gossip columnists (afl.com au) to trade trashy rumours about who is going where.

Just one minor alteration: i would scrap the home and away games and go straight to the finals.

I have a friend played VFA recently totalled his car, ended up in emergency. He had blacked out behind the wheel. Found out the the other day he had suffered 20 concussions from his playing days. 

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

I hope they read the riot act out to him in capital letters. 

I think that little Sunday chat with Steven May has got Melksham primed for September.

21 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Is that his maternal grandfather, dazzle?  Ian Brayshaw is still alive and kicking at the age of 80.

Is that 80 not out?

22 minutes ago, Demongirl35 said:

I have feeling Jackson and Gus are gone. 
Gus id be surprised about if he did end up leaving. He was here for some crappy times and now the club is better,  he’d want leave (if he does) 

For mine the 'Gussy Gawny' podcast is not worth listening to any more, Gussy is just having a laugh at the faithful.  I will make  an exception if they rename it Gussy the Ghost. Still, your mark and goal in the 3rd quarter of the GF will not be forgotten.

15 minutes ago, BDA said:

With each passing day my emotional attachment grows less and less. I'd like him to stay but if his heart isn't in it then we have to move on.

An extension of 2 years has been mentioned. Does it even make sense to develop him for another 2 years when there’s every chance he bails on us anyways and we’re back to square one, looking for a replacement for Maxy?

Would like to hear what Freo are prepared to offer. Perhaps this years first (i assume they haven't traded already) and their future first gets the job done. You’d fancy JT to unearth one top quality player with those 2 picks

Not to mention the disruption to the season caused by those two naughty boys.

I think it's not fully appreciated how close the players are to each other regardless of what colours they are wearing, just different paymasters. The chumminess after the game is definitely not old school. A classic example was Oliver and Dangerfield when Gawn was taking his shot in the prelim...  we supporters are the cows being milked via kayo and memberships.

31 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I’m going to stick my neck out and say that I believe that all the hype around Jacko - the incredible potential, the generational player - is just noise that at this stage in his career is simply baseless. He may become a reasonable player - but no way will he be “generational”. He rarely holds a mark around the ground - and certainly not one grab - he doesn’t win many hit outs at stoppages, and stats wise, there has been only minor improvement from last year - not the progress you’d expect from a “generational” player. While I’d prefer him to stay - as I think he will continue to be a good back up to Gawny - but if he wants to go, I’d prefer it be now rather than in 2 years time, as I believe we’ll get more for him now than in 2 years time. In 2 years time, the hype will be considerably muted, as his improvement, I believe, will not warrant such hype any more. The old adage of buy low and sell high definitely applies to this. I don’t think his trading stocks will get any higher than this year. Good luck to the kid, no hard feelings if you want to go, but I’m now more looking forward to the talent we can obtain from the trade.

The glass half-full argument is that we scored a no 3 pick when we dipped for one year... if he is the AFL.com.au trade talk special of the month we should use his currency to straighten up our woeful forward line.

51 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

They pressured us into 'old Melbourne' bad habits:

• Not lowering the eyes anywhere on the ground.
• Little composure
• Picked out opp players,
• Didn't do the 'good teammate' things.
• Poor on field leadership
• Harmes resurrected his fend-off and HTB
• Viney resurrected his take on the tackler and HTB
• Overhandballed.
• Didn't take the first option.

We succumbed the same way to Sydney.  When they brought the pressure we reverted to the above. 

Both games at the G.

I guess that is our archilles heal: unrelenting opp pressure.  We have work to do and banish the 'old Melbourne' bad habits permanently or at least be able to stop them in game when they creep in.

Good post. Harmes had friends, plenty of others trying the Hollywood fend-off. And what's with our penchant for ignoring presenting players and bombing into packs? There's a player called Dee Hubris (forgot his  number) who needs a spell at Casey.

We should be more worried about the AFL trying to pinch a couple of our top-liners in the next cuppla years for the new Hobart Start-Up.

PS Does anyone have any good knowledge of the best surf beaches down south?

Good points but fairly big $$$ being thrown at rugby states could more equitably used to gold-plate the proposed Hobart stadium. Then you could have Brisbane suns-of-the-royboys.

6 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

*ahem   May I refer you to page 60 of this thread. 

I know, i was just adding the last line. Lets hope our Luke doesn't run out.