drdrake

I know just nice to dream that we could turn the Jackson trade into a top 5 pick this year. Plus a future 1st, maybe we get a future 3rd back instead of their future second. It might depend on where we see Brown fall as a FS next year.

Be nice to throw 13 and Bedford at GWS for pick 3. Add in the future second rd from North swap with GWS future second.

Could be a good swap Tomlinson for Bruce. We need a KPF and the need a KPD. Be similar money

The issue clubs face is free agency. If there is any chance of losing a player it is better to trade then lose to free agency. Sometimes to clubs stop trying to keep a player as they know the player wants to go and it then becomes getting the best trade.

Trading Jeremy Howe

Agree we lack pure leg speed, but that wasn't the issue this season, it was slow, predictable ball movement with no dare. Last year we hit the daring kick from half back, this year down the line

No, I think we want that pick 21ish to on trade to Collingwood, it will be more what pick we need to add to the deal to get it done. I reckon gws want our second rd pick and we are offering the third round

With the players leaving GWS they are going to have a pretty strong hand in both r1 one of 2022 and 23 draft. Not sure if they have any academy plays this year. We might get a responsible pick with Bedford and a pick swap.

What will we get after 3rd round pick 51ish

You can stamp your feet all you want, unless we get state and federal money nothing will happen. The club would have had many meetings and submissions, unfortunately giving more money to the Olympic Park/mcg precinct isn't a high priority when you have a health and education crisis in most states of Australia. Sorry, would love to see our club get millions like other clubs but at this time there is bigger priorities

They certainly gave up on this season very easily and early. No question that they were completely under prepared for the season. They will fix this, WCE expect to win and will do what is needed.

West Coast don't stay down for long. If they can get their list healthy they still have some really good players.

The fact we changed our forward set up to not play him late in the year you don't blame him. He is now 4th choice kpf at melb.

What ever happened to the Collingwood report. Do a report then lift the carpet and sweep the issue under it. Same will happen here, a few statements for Hawthorn, the AFL and some of the people involved then GF, Trade week and all is forgotten.

Depends which angle you are looking at. Participation is up on the back of increase female participation, take that out and it shows the real health. Boys participation is dropping, the local clubs with money dominate. You have so many teenage boys dropping out of the game, It is something like only 30% will stay in the game to play u18s. Around 70% will drop off between u13s and 18s. The conversion from Auskick to junior footy is also very low. More and more local clubs will fold over the next 10 to 15 years due to the lack of players available and not having the finances to bring players in. The AFL knows this that is why they committed money to grassroots footy, not enough and still is targeting female participation.

Was that blind faith from the coach. Chandler and Bedfords form in the VFL warranted more games then they had. I think they should have been given a good run at it. ANB and Spargo to their defense were pushing so high up the ground bloody hard to work back. That was an issue we didn't look to control the footy across half back, change angles to open the space up but also give time for our forwards to work back. We rarely looked inboard just down the line.

Small forwards is something we have an over supply off. I reckon they got lazy and looked for the easy goal over the back rather than hitting the front and square spot. We went past the contest, it happened all the time I first thought it was timing then later in the season it was more looking for the easy kick. Looks great running into the open goal, looks even better a front and square snap

Maybe the Jackson thing is personal for Bell a 20 year grudge, we took a No 1 pick player from Fremantle, young ruckman that could jump and play as an extra mid, that we could also have father sons prospects in the near future. White and Jackson pretty much same player 20 years apart

Bit of all that, plus not playing the 2nd true tall forward, this was a really big issue.

We had to chase to much, in the back half of the season our ability to lock the ball inside our forward 50 really fell away,,which means every one works hard forward and the ball was coming straight out with little pressure and you then need to work hard to get into your defensive set ups. You lock the ball in back 6 push up and are set for repeat entries you get a bit of a spell. It is easier when you control the ball in your forward half than having to work back to defend.

The bottom line this season, we just weren't ruthless for long enough, you get 22 points up you just need to put sides away, every loss this year we had handy leads but just lacked that killer instinct like last year to put games away. We now have a choice do we follow the same path as bulldogs after they won their flag or we do we become ruthless like the tigers did to win 2 more.

Wasn't that option 1 build a big complex over the rail line and turn the carpark in front of gate 3 into a training oval. The greens, dog walkers, joggers all kicked up a stink and that was that.

I reckon last year we played with nothing to lose attitude take them game on through the corridor, we hit the kick into the middle and attacked from there. Bit like Collingwood, Fremantle and even Geelong are playing this year, looking to hit the aggressive kick to open the game up. It is easier to take risks when people don't expect you to win the comp, be interesting to see if we have change in mindset this week with the losing team finished for the year

I hate this kick as much as most but do see the necessity for it. The pocket kick is the safe kick lock the ball in as worse case. It enables your team defense to push up and control the game in your forward half. Repeat entries and you hope to break it open to score. The issue on Friday and games we have lost we haven't had the ground ball pressure up forward to lock it in. Back line push up expecting the forwards to lock it down, if we don't ball comes out backline is out of position and the sling shot effect kicks in. The last kick in isn't the main issue it is the ball movement in the centre third, we are slow and don't take any risk which enables opposition to get numbers back leaving this dump kick as only option. The other issue is our field kicking isn't good, especially our mids hitting the difficult 35m kick is hard for us so the safer option is put it into a dead spot, set up and try to score from repeat entries. Playing no true chf is also hurting us, b Brown needs to be close to goal hitting up, not flying for contested marks in the middle

The ball came out of our forward 50 to easy, you play a small forward line you need intense forward pressure, none of that tonight. We need a second tall forward not a ruck forward, Brown needs to be close to goal not pushing up high. Credit to Sydney, looked like we would blow them away in the third they lifted and broke us.