Sir Why You Little

3 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

SWYL (can I finish your username quote/sentence? 😳😜).
 

STFU!
 

Your black and white thinking (filth thinking) is plain boring and tiresome!

 

Read the room

No worries…

Our Supporter Base is far more passive than i thought 

Reading the Room 

STFU indeed…

Brilliant first year 

I hope he stays on his feet and stops trying to take speccies every game. 
2023 was an average year for this man. 
Can be far more consistent 

38 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Don’t expect the rest of us to be as narrow minded as yourself and others. 
Theres a difference between being disappointed and being angry when there are things beyond your control which have massive impacts and don’t even think of going down the Grundy line with regard to matters within our control as it would have had zero impact on our forward structure in those finals.

 

The supporters you accuse of not being angry enough are the same supporters you accused of accepting mediocrity when they brought to yours and others attention numerous times what was happening with the development of the team.  They told you a lot of luck in terms of everything going right is needed to win flags and we had that in 2021.

What occurred in the proceeding 2 seasons is to do with human nature, luck and learnings.  Yes that word everyone hates Learnings, we started 2022 like a house on fire and fell into a decline, but let’s be honest what were to expect having gone in as reigning premiers for the first time in 57 years.

But you want us to be angry that they couldn’t foresee that and that they couldn’t foresee the Petty, Fritsch and Melksham injuries. But then again that’s me making excuses and accepting mediocrity as opposed to being a realist

Don’t tell me to be Passive, just because you are

If what i think is not to your liking, don’t converse

WE HAVE THROWN AWAY 2 CUPS

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

If I’m in denial, I’ll happily stay in denial. I’d rather think about what might be possible this year, not what could’ve been last year and the year before, but WASN’T. 

It’s in the Record Books so you can always look it up….

2 Failed Campaigns with all that talent 

2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I know. Boy, do I know. And if I didn’t know I’d know soon enough since you mention it at every. single. opportunity. For example, see above 🙄  

Sorry that you are in denial 

Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

But we haven’t… and mentioning it every five minutes isn’t going to change that.

Premierships are bloody hard to win, yet clearly you and many others saw it as a given that we’d win at least three on the trot. Taking things like this for granted is a surefire way to set yourself up for disappointment. And no, I’m not saying we should hope for anything less than another Flag, but surely we don’t need to eternally dwell on the years that’ve elapsed. 

Not as a given.
We have the Talent, but not the same drive we had in ‘21

We should have won both years, but we were beaten on our home deck 4 times

Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

Surely now you’re taking the p!sss

Not at all. We should have 15 Cups right now 

Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

I never said you should forget it or brush it under the carpet, but you’re going to the other extreme: you’re disproportionately dwelling on it, which is fine, it’s your prerogative. But need you point it out so frequently?????

Disproportionately dwelling on it?

It should be at the front of every post we all write this year

1 minute ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

True.

After two years of getting a gazillion inside 50's yet scoring enough goals is an indictment.  One is entitled to expect one's highly-paid, highly-skilled experts to derive strategies and bed them in over that time frame.

Thankyou. I truly don’t think Demon Supporters en masse are angry enough about the last 2 years. We certainly should be

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Don’t you ever get tired of pointing this out? Serious question. I mean, ffs… enough already. You weave this into pretty much every discussion on DL. We all know only too well: four consecutive home final losses, consecutive straight sets exits etc., etc., bloody etc. 🙄 

 

What do you want me to do about it? Forget it, brush it under the Carpet maybe?

IT IS A DISGRACEFUL STATISTIC 

so, no i won’t forget it 

Losing to The Filth and Carlton in consecutive weeks….

7 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I think 22 was forgivable, last year we let ourselves down massively in the finals........and before anyone says we only just lost those games.......please think first.........Collingwood pantsed us in the first quarter and a half and then we gagged in front of goals like a 12 year old trying to ask their first crush out on a date but just can't.........Carlton.......FME....we should of beaten them by 6-8 goals in a canter but played undisciplined, scared to lose football............injuries didn't lose us the either of those games.

That’s 4 Home Finals in a Row…..

We have certainly wasted the last 2 years 

Very good article 

Kane Cornes should read it 

16 hours ago, rjay said:

Take as long as you want 'SWL', personally I can't see the point.

I'm looking forward to season 2024.

I wonder what it will bring???

I honestly have no idea.

After losing 4 home finals on the Home Ground, who would know….

37 minutes ago, rjay said:

Good post 'BBP'...

I must admit my inclination would have been to make similar moves to yours above.

The Grundy T Mac one is a bit harder to justify as Grundy unfortunately proved he was not much chop as a forward...at least Tommy had some runs on the board. I might have been more inclined to take Grundy over of Schache but he wouldn't have given us a lot of flexibility. At least Schache could have played ruck, forward or back but we didn't want to use him, so not much point in him being there really...

...without being part of the inner sanctum I guess we will never know the logic of why we did what we did.

You would have to think there was sound reasoning.

TMac had no runs on the board last September. He was a complete liability in both games. He couldn’t move. It was actually embarrassing to watch. Unforgivable from a Selection pov, but it was done not once but twice, whilst 2 fit blokes were not used. 
will take a long time to forget last September 

52 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

I really can’t understand these incredibly negative opinions. We only needed to score one more goal a game last season & we go to one of the top forward lines. A few tweaks to our forward delivery & more importantly keeping our forwards on the ground will make a massive difference to our team. Get consistency on the scoreboard & that will impact our whole team dynamic. Name one team we haven’t matched it with & have lost for any other reason than because of our  “much publicised forward deficiencies”.

The main problem was we had this same issue in 2022, and again in 2023

Massive F50 entries with very low conversion rates 

The issue was not resolved during 2023 pre season 

After last September i am staggered that he is going around again 

I love Tom, but we played those 2 Finals a man down…

45 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

They aren't talking to each other?

Predictive Text! 😊

3 hours ago, Macca said:

Like all the other clubs, much depends on the front 3rd and how it functions

Defence is of no real concern and either is our midfield strength but our entries from the midfield to our forwards is all important

It's pleasing that we've bolstered our forward line numbers with the acquisition of McAdam & Billings and we might perhaps see some moments from Tholstrup and maybe even Windsor.  Jefferson & Fullarton might surprise too adding to the mainstays of Petty, JVR, Kozzie (forward/mid), Petracca (mid/forward), Fritsch and the small brigade

And then the connection forward.  Our release forward from our midfield and wings needs to be first rate in terms of the mids having lots of time to dispose of the ball forward without being under undue pressure (midfield schemes needs to be B+ at least) and more importantly, the quality of those disposals to the right spots forward

If we can achieve 14-18 marks inside 50 per game on average, we'll go a long way towards another top 4 finish. And a number of those marks need to be in and around the hot spot rather than boundary side

A more scientific approach heading into our forward line is required and with the acquisition of McQualter, hopefully our F50 entries improve in terms of quality

Do all that and we'll finish high up on the ladder again

Let's not forget that we've still got a high quality list ... we just need to get the best out of that list

Our conversion rate has been very poor the last 2 years (50-60 inside 50’s a game) We have to use the ball so much better up forward.
I know it’s obvious, but we need to actually do it. 

2 hours ago, No. 31 said:

Its on youtube, worth watching for those that have not seen it. Clear and concise presentation.

 

Thanks for that one

22 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You’re missing my point… it’s the childish name-calling with which I take issue. Also, the lack of respect.

Besides, I heard both Kate and Perty speak last night at the AGM and I’ll take that over eavesdropping at dinner tables any day. 

You can have your opinion. 
i have mine. This was not eavesdropping 

i know the conversations took place, and got quite heated 

On 18/12/2023 at 17:34, WalkingCivilWar said:

What about calling them out over and over and over again… and again and again and again? And the name-calling… there’s nothing wrong with that?

All coaches make bad calls at times and yes, folks will call them out. But ffs, after about the thousandth time it’s well and truly insufferable. As for the disrespectful name-calling: that’s NEVER acceptable. 

You may not like it, but Goodwin is under the pump for next year. From inside. Phone calls and video hookups have occurred and heared discussions over dinner tables

How many teams lose 4 home finals in succession with the talent we have on our list?

Sorry, but it’s not good enough 

21 hours ago, Roost it far said:

I’m not attacking him personally but the team discipline in that game was atrocious.  The week prior we got jumped by the Pies and wet our pants. We’ve now lost 4 finals in a row. We just missed a golden opportunity to win a flag and we all know how rare that opportunity is…..so yes I’m a bit cranky about watching the pie scum with our medals. We have a list that demands we play Preliminary finals as a pass mark. We now sit below that pass mark and he’s the Boss. I’m pretty sure he’d be the first to admit the last 2 games weren’t his best. Also it’s a footy forum, surely we can pot the coach occasionally! 
Anyway you’re clearly a passionate supporter and I like that you go into bat for the team. 

Well Said. Some bad calls were made, and there is nothing wrong with calling them out. 
2 years that have ultimately been wasted 

I didn’t think it was possible to hate and despise Collingwood any more than I already hated and despised them, before September 2023

It is Possible….