Sir Why You Little

I agree 

Us against Everyone Else. 
We won’t get any Sympathy next year 

We need to shut out the noise and get the job done 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

You think he acted alone without the Board.

It was 90% actually, $2.7m of $3m, still the biggest single donation ever given to the club.

What revenue streams back then, would have got us the $30m approx he left us, for Bentleigh and Oakleigh, plus his $2.7m.

What have the last few Boards added to what he left us?

He may not have been the President I personally wanted, but his contribution to the MFC was huge, in addition to helping save the club from a  merger, which would have seen a different club today.

Yes Joe acted alone. That was the main problem. There was no debate or discussion. 
i am not disputing he didn’t help save the club from merging.
I think you underestimate what could have been done if Members and influential Supporters had been called to arms at the time. 
It was Joe’s way or else, and that became a great hindrance sadly

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Unbelievable.

The guy got us 2 facilities we sold for millions, I think in the order of $30m and personally threw in $2.7m of his own and you are having a go at him, for not begging the members for money, for a facility, that several previous and post MFC Boards have promised and to this point have failed to deliver.

Wow!

 

He threw in about 80% of what he originally pledged. The last couple of payments were very tough to receive. 
We were offered a Training Facility in a Prime Spot and Joe turned it down without any discussion or debate.
So yes i am having a go at him, as i have said before Revenue Streams could, and should have been set up. We were at The Junction Oval at that stage, that place was a complete Health Hazard 

11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Read every single word at the top of every page and respect this difficult decision. You aren’t the one with your [censored] on the line. 

I am just asking a question, not starting an argument 

if the Radio interview had not taken place, I fully understand your position 

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Obviously not. Otherwise he’d be lawyering up every five minutes.

 Come on M, you of all people should know that’s an entirely different thing (given your background of working in the media). 

Once everything is in the public domain, the dynamics change. I find it interesting there is no discussion allowed considering Goodwin and Pert were interviewed on Radio…

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I think a little reminder is in order…

Thank you, mods.

Thank you for the many, many hours you put into this site whilst juggling full-time jobs, families and interests other than footy. Thank you for covering the costs of running the site that ads and subscriptions alone don't quite cover. Thank you for never taking a break: 365 days a year for two decades. Thank you for providing such an informative, interesting and fun space for Dees diehards to talk about the greatest football club in the world.

To the folks who clearly need reminding that there’s certain things that can’t be discussed on DL… If that’s a problem for you, perhaps you can find *another footy forum, one wherein it’s open slather, and anything goes.

What you SHOULDN’T do is create a new thread just to bemoan the censorship. Nor should you mock DL in snide remarks strewn about in other threads. Andy is the one who can and will be sued should something that “crosses the line” be published, even though it’s not him who said it.

*good luck finding another footy forum that comes anywhere near the standard of this one.

edit: I just saw the updated notice that appears above the topics list. Hopefully this time folks read it properly. 

Can Kane Cornes be Sued? He spends his entire shift discussing the Current MFC issues 

Just now, george_on_the_outer said:

Wrong.

He had already put up a couple of Million dollars to stop the club going broke.  The club had no money and it was too much to expect him to stump up more.  Without him the club would have folded.

I never said he should pay for the Facilities.
But he made no effort to create any revenue streams to make it possible.

I worked with a board member at the time, so i was given some first hand info regularly, We could have raised money for the Lexus Complex and should have. Too late now….

32 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Would you have rathered that we merged?

For all of Gutnick's short-comings, and there were quite a few towards the end, he at least led the anti-merger campaign to victory.

This was a totally separate issue. 
Gutnick made no effort to engage with Members to raise any revenue for a Training Facility. He just flatly said, we can’t afford that

And 20+ years later we are still paying for that atrocious decision 

We had our chance many years ago, and turned it down. 
the contribution of Diamond Joe….

That interview this morning was almost unlistenable. The amount of ads Played in each break was outrageous!! In the old days there was a limit of 6 advertisements per break, that law obviously doesn’t exist anymore 

Flag or Bust. 
 

Just Do It

2 hours ago, deva5610 said:

I forgot that to finish second on the ladder you must win at the NT.

I couldn't have been the 4 point loss to Port? The loss to Essendon in Adelaide? 7 points to Freo at the G? 2 goals to the Cats? 4 points to the Blues?

Nope. It was specifically the NT game. We'll ignore the fact that we won 5 on the trot following it. It's the NT game and the travel.

I for one quite like the game and what the club does around it. I'd be disappointed if they stopped.

Good for you. I would rather the Game was at The ‘G

13 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

A few passages from the article without copying the entire story. 

Demons coach Simon Goodwin’s quick thinking has saved a man’s life in Bali, coming to the rescue after the man dislocated his shoulder. Goodwin was in Bali after the end of the AFL season and surfing with mates including 1993 premiership winner Rick Olarenshaw on the island of Nusa Ceningan. The Herald Sun reported that a young man jumped off a cliff into the water but dislocated his shoulder. The Demons coach rushed over to the man and dragged him onto the surfboard and took him to safety beyond the break. Goodwin then flagged down a passing jet ski and helped the man onto it to get him to safety. The father jumped in the water to help his son, and recognised Goody and started talking footy. Goody’s response was let’s save his son first then chat about footy later. Goody showed a lot less bravery when a sea snake came across his path.

 

 

 

Dislocated shoulder hitting the water!!!

That would be a viscous way to go

I wonder if Michael Warner will write about this tomorrow?

11 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

Insightful you are, Obi-Wan 

Not at all. A tight competition…We need to become more innovative 

Just now, Demonsterative said:

Simplistic once again WYL. Put some thought into the sponsorship, developing local talent and the drafting possibilities. 
 

We are becoming a big club despite the decades of being in the wilderness. We live in a national league and should compete on a bigger scale  outside our city, Melbourne. 
 

I suggest the club knows better and will do what’s best for primarily for our success on field and off

Chin up…

 

 

I see it differently 

playing in the NT this year cost us 2nd Spot. 
Sliding Doors…

29 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

Hawthorn did alright and won 3 premierships being in Tasmania. We won a premiership too, in 2021 
 

This are just a little more complicated……… WYL…..

As I said, there are many ways we can assist the NT, without giving up home games. ($500,000) We need to make that money elsewhere. 
I have no interest in hawthorn. They can do as they please. We must aim to be bigger, and not rely on handouts. It only gives opposition an edge they don’t deserve. 

1 hour ago, 58er said:

I am not even sure the AFL Premiership winner received a monetary amount then. Don’t be so precious because you have made a rather outlandish statement when sponsorship was a pipe dream. 

I am well aware that the Dees were during their glory years ( 1954 to 1964 ) multi winners of the McClelland Trophy when Firsts Reserves and Under19’s were included. But a cash donation or prize then really?As you know we had limited chances during our 57 year hideaway only in the1987 to 1994 or in 1998 or from 2000 to 2006 if it was still held then. 

Your assertion has the aura of a very salty fan that is grumpily throwing a toy or two out of your cot. 

Just be thankful our Club is in the box seat in 2023 for this magnificent prize money and is in the hands of our top shelf AFLW women’s team who will give it an almighty shake like they did in the GF at that venue in Season7 and come up trumps again. 

Sorry i have no idea what you are trying to say. 
my point is quite simple

Many Years ago when the Dr. McLelland Trophy was awarded to the Team who was the highest finisher of The U19, Reserves and Seniors in a Season, there should have been a Financial Reward. 
This is for a Competition that pulled 121,000 to a GF in 1970

Where did all that money go??

I have always wondered. Bit like Cricket when Bradman was in charge…

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

We no longer sell the Alice game just for the $. That used to be the reason but it’s not so anymore. For one, the NT govt is one of our larger sponsors. And I’m not gonna go into how much it means for the community there. I’ve done so before and have regretted it, suffice to say I’m not as thick-skinned as I need to be. 

There are many ways we can help the NT, without Selling Home Games. 
That Philosophy grew from the 2008 era. 
Our core business is winning Premierships

3 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Well MFC wouldn't be signing a 10 year lease. I would be thinking of something closer to a 99 year lease.

Sure. But a Lease can still be broken, it is a dangerous thing to do

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Of course there should always have been a $ prize. It’s quite a feat. 

Any Winnings should go to The MFC So we can stop selling Home Games during a Season, giving our opponents a direct advantage 

2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

It was around back in the day when it was based on the combined H&A results of the under 19s, the reserves and the seniors. Of course that wasn’t sustainable because you need equal number of teams for it to be fair. Fast forward to now where for the first time, we have 18 teams in both the AFL and the AFLW. 

Back in the Day, each VFL Side had U19 Reserves and Seniors. Back in the Days when September had crowds of 115,000 jammed into The MCG 

The Good Doctor was awarded back in those days, and there should have been a Financial Prize for the winner  

30 minutes ago, poita said:

How many clubs own the land their training facilities are built on? I know St Kilda lease Moorabbin from City of Kingston. 

Yes. Kingston have f$&@ the Saints over many times, because they own the land. 
I wouldn’t build a Multi $Million Complex on someone else’s land

26 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Yes lease length will probably be an issue and the area inside the racecourse is governed by a trust. There is some land that is MRC owned on the perimeter of the racecourse as well. Will take time to work through the issues but Caulfield is the best bet for a single permanent home for the Demons for many reasons which have already been fleshed out in this thread.

Not if we don’t own the land, that could be absolutely diabolical in years to come….

7 hours ago, 58er said:

It couldn’t as the women’s comp did not have all 18 teams as participants. So the Trophy was impossible. This is only the second year it was possible. 

Sorry your little dig at the AFL was misguided. Sure if you look hard enough and check your stats you can find another matter to embarrass City Hall!!
 

Sorry.
The Dr Mclelland Trophy has been around for Decades. 
long before the Women’s Comp. 
it was originally based on U19 Reserves and Seniors 

There should have been a Pot of Gold up for grabs a long time ago