Viney12

The recruitment of Clark was amazing for a number of reasons. But what gives me the most confidence about it, is that clearly Neeld and co. can spot talent. Many scoffed when we chased him, many things were said. But he has turned out exactly as Neeld and co. wanted

This is where I'm basing my prediction. Improvement of existing players and bringing in some young guns and complimentary mature players (and possibly a FA or 2)

Yes

He didn't try to get to Essendon last year, was total BS He was sounded out by them, he told them [censored] off

The thrust of the interview is we've been off the pace all year and being absolutely dominated by a top 4 team reminds them of that No problem with it

Yes we would, however, that would be negated if we bought in a free agent Lose a player to free agency, you gain a pick. Bring one in, that's seen as compensation enough I'd like Beamer to stay personally I think he has good football left in him despite a poor year and there will be enough changes to the list and lost experience as is

Count me in, I reckon we'll play finals

Defence is paramount this has to be taught 1st before attack can even come in to the equation And we are so far behind the 8 ball with attack it's clearly been the sole focus of the season. A team like North are an example of this. Spent the last 2 years defending, and now they are successfully implementing attack into their game To continue on the Bailey path, we would've won 8 odd games a year, and never been a premiership threat

I would hardly call it ripping them apart. We kicked straighter. And once they probably copped an absolute spray for being behind melbourne at half time, they flicked the switch and smashed us. And badly. That 3rd quarter was one of the worst quarters of football I have ever seen. It was dumb football of the highest order. They kept kicking points, we kept kicking out to Jamar just outside 50 near the boundary, they triple teamed him, went inside 50 for another point, only for it to be repeated. You are the one with rocks in your head if you think that last year was "good football" matching it with the best We were 1 way runners, who were smashed by half decent teams, beat up on weak teams and still only then scrapped home against some of them If you can't see massive changes were needed, you need your head read

In 2009 we got up for the games against Collingwood, but still came up short 2010 was proof that Bailey was not going to succeed. Collingwood destroyed us that day. It was embarrassing how clinically they tore us apart. 2009 means nothing. Who of note did we beat in 2011 that made us match it with the best? Seriously? Every half decent team absolutely trounced us

FMD now I've read it all. We downhill skiied against weak teams and got absolutely pole axed by good opposition. Carlton smashed us - we then had one of their players start the bruise free tag that's followed us since We got systematically dismantled by Collingwood, it was embarrassing 1, 8 and 6 ring any bells? Had Hawthorn have kicked straight in Round 2 (remember the 10 odd straight points / inside 50's in the 3rd quarter) it would've been more of a massacre than it already was We scrapped in against a very average Brisbane WC absolutely flogged us We were a laughing stock with zero respect in the AFL community And Neeld is trying to change that. He's had 1 pre season and most of 1 season to tip it on it's head, work out who's worth keeping, who's not worth keeping, who he can bring into the club etc. The majority of our key signings are done, so clearly the players know he's on the right track....yet you want the guy hung drawn and quartered Doesn't make sense

Yeah....because this playing group achieved so much and showed such hunger pre-Neeld

I think Jose meant it's the first he'd heard the Gys was injured and not doing weights pre season

But bagging the coach is ok, hey?

Yep

Or perhaps people are just willing to give a young kid who put in some pretty good performances against pretty good opposition, who's struggled with injury, a go?

Fitness can be built This appears to be Gys' main issue right now One of the few on our list that can consistently find the ball

A nice read after this year (particularly the last few days) I've been on the Cloke bandwagon from day one, would be a great get. We've got the cash, we've got the cap space, we've got the gaping hole for another moster forward.

I honestly don't know why you bother supporting the club or posting here If you said anything semi complimentary towards the club, I'd drop dead of a heart attack I reckon

Amazingly, they've editted the article! it stated previously that he told cameron he was leaving and why, then left unbelivable Note at the bottom of the article - things are not adding up for me. It CLEARLY stated that he told Craig Cameron he was leaving because they were tanking - how would a journo create that. Agenda's all round An earlier version of this article incorrectly reported that Paul Gardner spoke to former Melbourne recruiting manager Craig Cameron about the issue. AFL.com.au accepts that Mr Cameron was not involved in any conversation, and apologises for the error, which was made by a reporter.

Stynes still climbed out of his sick bed (often against doctors orders) to attend games and functions Gardner missed a season opener one year cause he was going hiking or something.......Stynes was 100% committed to the club It was a status and past time for Gardner

No, he contradicts himself on this He left a game....in '07, whilst Craig Cameron was still at the club (who left in '07) Agenda

According to out ex-President we were actually tanking in '07

.......not looking forward to the end of the season after round 5

The members are keeping the club afloat....you do remember the Debt Demolition....right?