Redleg

Well if we aren't looking at Josh Bruce and Yoko is wrong, then Jenkins at a bargain basement pick and salary, should be the option for the next couple of years, while we find another key forward. If Tom and Weid are injured again, like last year, we really have no one, other than maybe an inexperienced Petty as a key forward.

That is surprising.

"Rub on all surfaces for a perfect clean" - White King.

We are now light on for Key Backs, Key forwards and Small forwards. Petty is available to help out either key back or key forward. I think we will take a small forward or two in the draft. Therefore, if we can trade in another key forward and Yoko has suggested we are currently looking at one, then our problems will be greatly reduced. List balance is very difficult, as getting the categories accurate, is a near impossibility, with the unknown factors like injuries/retirements etc. For example, you have a couple of good ruckmen and then they both get injured. You can't just have stacks of ruckmen on your list, to cover for that, without impacting other areas. It is an extremely difficult task to have a perfectly balanced list, as unforeseen events can throw your perfection out the window.

Which one, Taylor or PIckett?

Or that so many good players, missed so many games and therefore votes, that the B & F in some respects, IS meaningless this year.

How do you bank draft picks?

They only have one thing attractive to players $. PS but like North they haven’t got anyone atm.

I don’t find the Saints attractive.

And the second final.

It can’t be left too late if a player is involved, as you need time to convince them and work out terms.

Those 2 won't be moving, they are the futures of their clubs.

Gunston, McKay, Curnow, Brown and Ratugolea are IMO no chance at all. Tremblay is refusing to leave WA where he is a G-D. Bruce appears to have committed to the Dogs, though could be a chance late if a deal can't be done. Membrey won't go if Bruce is gone. That leaves Schache on your list, who we could have had a couple of years ago. McKay's twin brother at North could be a chance, but he isn't setting the world on fire and has played mainly in defence. I think our key forward if we have one in sight, is not on this list.

Dogs are now into him for 2021 and some believe he and his brother would be better served, playing at different clubs. GC List Manager says they have some confidence he will sign an extended contract with them, at some stage next year.

I am happy to believe all Dees gossip at this time of year, as it makes it interesting and enjoyable to log on to DL each time, hoping for some good news on a new player. If it doesn't come off, no biggie. As long as posters aren't lying and I believe you aren't, then it is great to get bits of news on our club. Keep up the posting and when you can, throw out another hint. Not sure if this has been posted, but Mahoney virtually ruled out any small forward trades and suggested that could be a draft scenario. So I think if he is correct, we won't be drafting a big boy with our first pick.

Yes he can have an opinion. Yes he is wrong. Finishing 17th doesn't of itself make you a basket case, it might mean for a number of valid reasons you had a bad year. Carlton finished one spot higher, are they a basket case and if not why not? I would have thought a basket case is a club with no good players, no members, no money. We are not that, so IMO he is wrong. Every club that finished 17th or worse over the years must according to his rationale been a basket case that year. Lazy journalism and jingoism. I don't bang on like we are assured success and I don't think most on here do either. But I do believe with a good injury run, better draw, further development of young players, hard work and some luck we will bounce back quickly.

I may have seen a few of them glued to major city intersections in the last few days.

He basically quoted Mahoney saying we are happy “right now” to keep pick 3 unless a really good offer is made. So we are putting it out there.

That is disappointing if we were looking to trade pick 3 with Carlton as it suggests that GWS hasn’t approached us with a very good deal. On the other hand what could Carlton offer other than 9 and a player.

Where is the poster who said we haven’t done anything and Saints and Carlton are killing it. They have done nothing and we are the only club who has done the 2 trades predicted.

Poor relationship with a few players and loss of faith in him by others.

Interesting to see if we have identified a key forward.

Camporeale was seen to be too close to Pyke. No other finding against him. Wouldn't have thought loyalty was a bad thing.

Sorry didn't see your edit. Fair enough I understand your position.

Not for me.