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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing in regards to Green. Remember in his early days as a HFF he was labelled 'Dead Eye Dick', because he was one of the most accurate set shots for goal ever. Why did we take him out of the forward line? He's deadly.

Where is Col at his most dangerous? If he gets a bigger engine over the pre-season I think Bails would be wise to stick him in the guts from round 1 and leave him there. That said, he has got sticky hands and a golden right boot...HFF might be the spot for him. In any case I think he'll be much better off after a full pre-season under his belt. 2008 is the time to deliver for Col.

I agree, Kangars is a good prospect. Recruiters have said he would play a Darren Glass 'shutdown' type role in defence - exactly what we need. Not totally against Darren Pfeiffer either...he was a really straight ahead, breaking the lines midfielder as a junior and maybe a change of scenery would do him the world of good. Will be an interesting day...just happy with how we've come out of the national draft.

Do you mean Kreuzer, Cotchin, and Morton? If those three were taken with the first three, we would've taken Grimes...not Masten.

DeeMan over at Bigfooty got down to training today, took some pictures. Here's the link: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.p...646#post9597646

No sh*t, but he was implying that we took Brock as the best available not to fill our needs when we went in with a clear plan to replace Woey and Powell with 3 and 5.

True that. Oh well, slightly off topic...when are the new blokes going to train for the first time? Wouldn't mind getting down and seeing them.

Mate that is a stupid comment. We were always going to take inside mids early in that draft as we had a gaping hole left after Woewodin and Powell moved on.

Maybe furious was bad wording but that's what I was feeling when he called out the name, and I had a look at his footage. I say this because I saw Rance in the U/18 championships and he was the standout defender from the carnival, an area of weakness in our lineup. When you pass up a player like that (who seems to me to be a gem) and grab a grunt player like Grimes who, lets be honest, had a highlights package compiled by AFL.com.au which wasn't overly impressive, it just got me thinking - haven't we got enough of them? Sure depth is great but we already had depth in the midfield and zero depth in defensive key position posts. It's only my opinion and I hope that Grimes does play 200 games for the MFC, because like you guys i'm red and blue through and through. However i've also seen enough of Alex Rance to suggest he won't be anywhere near the disaster that was Luke Molan.

Apparently Simon Buckley is training the house down. Not just at the team trainings either, but in his spare time. Gotten a bit more bulky which he needed to. Back to the topic, the two that stand out to me are Neitz and Rivers. If Neita can kick 70+ goals for the year and remain injury free his on-field leadership will be valuable to say the least. If Rivers can hold down CHB for 22 rounds it will be a boost of epic proportions to our chances of success in 2008.

Thanks for that Wheels. All of the sudden i'm feeling a whole lot better about Grimes :D

Why did we get another in and under midfielder when we could have got the best key defender in the draft? Allow me to just name a few of the in and under midfielders we seem to have an abundance of: McLean, Jones, Moloney, McDonald, Sylvia. Now allow me to name our questionable KPP backmen: Rivers (injury prone), Frawley (could be ok), Carroll (Ughh), Holland (The only bloke big enough to handle to opposition 'gorilla's'). Now which area do you think needed to be addressed more urgently at Pick 14 yesterday? ESPECIALLY after taking a tall midfielder/wingman in Morton. If Grimes was an outside midfielder with genuine pace and sublime skills I wouldn't be questioning this selection; however after watching some footage of him his footskills are rubbish and he's not overly quick. I love Morton and Maric but i'm furious with CAC for letting Rance pass us by. Only time will tell whether or not this was the right decision.

Yup, agree that drafting Maric effectively rules out Sampi. No doubt we will get one of the overlooked players...hopefully Gourdis, who was widely regarded as top 15. Could be a long term replacement for Neita.

What a great result for the MFC. Morton was becoming more and more likely to get to us as draft day approached and I for one am unbelievably excited at his ability as a footballer. If we can fix up Grimes' kicking technique then he will somewhat similar to McLean in his hardness and leadership qualities; and the recruitment of Maric as a small forward who will be able to work effectively at stoppages gives us another option up forward - AND his kicking technique is seemingly flawless. At the time I was a tad surprised that we passed on Rance at 14 but Grimes seems to be a likely type (Also is a diehard Melbourne supporter, which I love ). Seems like the trading of TJ will be worth it in the long term, especially now with the coup of Morton who's footskills are on par with Johnstone's, if not more penetrating and consistent. Great day, go Dees in 2008.

Great analysis Diablo. Exactly my line of thinking in regards to Masten. Back to Palmer...for one I would be really disappointed if CAC took him ahead of Masten, Ebert, or even Myers. What are you views on Palmer's ability to win his own footy, his lack of penetration on his kick, and his inability to consistently hit targets? Palmer at Pick 4 seems a bit high for us I reckon.

If we were looking to take a Key Back, Rance is slightly better then Pears; but doubt he will be available at 14. If we were looking to take a Key Forward, I think Henderson has it over Gourdis as far as we're concerned as he's a local with just as much talent and stickier hands. If we could fix up his kicking technique we could have a real weapon inside the forward 50. If we were looking at taking the best available regardless of position, I think Henderson is a wonderful prospect and we most definitely need a long term replacement for Neitz at Full Forward. Gourdis is a more rangy type who can drift up the ground whereas Henderson has Full Forward written all over him, granted his kicking improves. I hope that answers your question. At 14 I took Pears because I believe the other 3 will be gone.

Jones is a freak. Looks like he's hit the gym over the break...imagine this midfield: Jones, McLean, Cotchin, fit and firing Sylvia. BANG. Any sign of Whelan? Will be a handy inclusion into our backline in 2008.

Most Definitely am Tommyneu . I first saw Myers play for East Perth during the year and at the time I remember thinking he was a certainty to go top 30. After the nationals I'd be extremely disappointed if we didn't get him at 4, as there is no way in hell he will slip to 14. During the champs what impressed me the most about him was not only his elite skills but his willingness to put his head over it when required. Even if Morton was available, I think Myers is the tougher version of him and by no means would I be disappointed if we picked him over Morton; that said, Morton's finishing skills are something else. Such a balance between sticking your head over the ball and outside finishing skills can be found in players such as Dal Santo and Adcock. He's a really exciting prospect. I too would be doing cartwheels down the westgate if we got Vez at 21! He could go higher, but him missing the nationals will see him slide to the second round IMO. In response to MFC4Life, it's tough to compare the players you've mentioned with Myers. I would be reluctant to touch Masten or Ebert with their Osteitis Pubis. It's affected Sylvia so badly that it's kind of put me off drafting players known to have it. That said, they are both quality players when fit...but I'd still lean towards Myers based on what he can offer to our playing group. We have enough in and under types like Masten and Palmer is not worthy of top 5 IMO. In response to Freak, Pears is a smaller 'Key Back' but he plays taller then his height suggests. Height wouldn't be a worry. If Rance was available we would snap him up but Pears is more then capable.

Recorded the U/18 champs this year so have analysed them quite heavily. This is the way I see it panning out for us, assuming that Kreuzer, Morton and Cotchin go top three (which is almost certain to be the case). Hope you can see the rationale behind my selections and if this happened for real on November 24th, I'd be ecstatic. Cheers. Pick 4 > Melbourne - David Myers - 190cm 85kgs - Perth (Utility) Myers is a utility in every sense of the word. IMO he is the best all round footballer in this year's crop. Myers displays leadership, maturity beyond his years, and elite skills coming off the half back flank, or running through the midfield; where he is more then capable of matching it with the best. His pace is decent for 190cm, as is his agility. Will be a 200+ game player for whoever the lucky club that picks this gem of a footballer up. Cool in a crisis, Myers seems to have more time then anybody else on the field. Craig Cameron won't be able to wipe the grin off his face if the Dees get Myers, neither should all Melbourne supporters. Comparisons - Taller version of Dal Santo, Adcock. Others we may look at with this pick - Morton or Cotchin if they slide, Palmer, Masten. Pick 14 > Melbourne - Tayte Pears - 192cm 90kgs - East Perth (Key Back) We need to take a Key Back with this pick, and assuming Rance is gone, Pears is our man. He only managed to enhance his reputation as one of the finest key back's in this years bunch potential draftees. His superb U/18 championships capped off a fine year for East Perth. A key defender who wasn't far off AIS selection last year, Pears was certainly been one of the more impressive defenders over the course of this years carnival. His reading of the play, sound skills, and penetrating rebound off the backline are his trademarks. On paper, his height of 192cm can be deceiving, as he plays much taller then that reading suggests. Frawley, Rivers and Pears controlling the backline in years to come should have CAC licking his chops. Comparisons - A more mobile Jared Rivers Others we make look at with this pick - Alex Rance if he slides, David Gourdis. Pick 21 > Melbourne - Pat Veszpremi - 183cm 83kgs - Northern Knights (Mid) Taking a utility with Pick 4 and a key back with 14, Melbourne will take this tough nut midfielder at 21. All AA last year and missed the champs this year. Watched a bit of TAC cup over the past couple of years and think this bloke will become a star AFL footballer, can play anywhere, put him forward and he kicks a bag; as was displayed with his superb 8 goal performance late in the year. When he plays back he provides terrific run and when in the middle can accumulate large possession numbers as well as kick long goals. Loves to break the lines and rarely loses out in a 1 on 1 contest. He doesn't leave anything on the footy field, an attribute most coaches love as mentors. Comparisons - Daniel Harris with more skill and goalkicking nouse. Others we may look at with this pick - Scott Selwood, Steven Gaertner, Scott Simpson Pick 53 > Melbourne - Jay Bowden 184cm 74 cm - Tasmania (Mid) Jay Bowden had super championships and I think he would be a great fit for us. Good size, very stylish player who moves across the park well and is a very good user of the ball. Brings others players into the game by frequently drawing opposition to him in a contest – not unlike a Pendlebury or a Dal Santo. Which an abundance of the in and under 'grunt' players such as McLean, Jones, and McDonald, Melbourne could really use an outside finisher now that TJ is gone. This bloke could very well go higher. Comparisons - Tambling; he has the potential to explode but still lacks a bit of hardness. Others we may look at with this pick - Guy O'Keefe, Travis Dulic

Personally I'd prefer to take a punt on Pfeiffer or Sampi. Both under 24 and have just as much talent as Welsh. DB would be foolish to take a 28 year old medium forward approaching the twilight of his career.