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AFL DRAFT CENTRAL 2018 DRAFT GUIDE

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Er ... Mr. Leg. There is no city called Kent in England or New Zealand. Kent is a county in England.

The ultimate Phantom Draft from Knightmare - AFL Phantom Draft: Rounds 1, 2, 3

Knightmare’s Phantom Draft AFL Phantom Draft: Rounds 1, 2, 3

AFL Draft Central Power Rankings:- Running down from 60 to 46 -> 45 to 31 - > 30 to 16 - > 15 to 1

1986 VFL Round 1 - Richmond vs Melbourne

Correct. In Michael Gleeson’s Age article, The Age AFL to introduce mid-season rookie draft in 2019 he says that in addition to the new mid-season rookie draft the AFL is “also set to allow clubs to add a player to their rookie list during the pre-season if they have a spot available or if they lose a player to a long-term injury or retirement”. This will apply to the period between December 1 and March 15 at which time clubs could place players “on one of three inactive lists: a long-term injury list, a season-ending list or a retired player list”. So you can leave a spot vacant at the drafts to allow yourself time to determine what player you want and you have a few months in which to do it.

I’ve never been able to master a complete understanding of how the bidding system works for f-s/academy picks. Let’s say a club nominates Toby Bedford at 31. Do I take it that if we bid for him, we would have to then give up picks worth the equivalent to the points allocated for pick #31? If so, that would leave us having used 23 & 28, taken Bedford and our next pick becomes 91 or its equivalent?

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A few people have mentioned him and according to this write up in the Leader Newspapers, Melbourne is one of seven clubs to have interviewed him - AFL 2018: Northern Knights Tom McKenzie on radar of seven clubs

Cal Twomey’s October Phantom Form Guide has him taken at 10:- 10 Jordan Clark POS: Half-back Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia Clark is coming with a rush. The West Australian's season gained momentum after winning All Australian honours at the under-18 championships, and he played some solid senior footy for Claremont late in the year to push himself into the top 10 of some clubs' draft boards. He's a good user of the ball off half-back and is given the ball to make things happen, and the former elite junior cricketer finished eighth in the 2km time trial last week.

There’s been plenty of talk about the top 25 prospects but what about 26-50? Here’s Matt Balmer’s latest - 26-50 Power Rankings

Given that Butters comes from the Western Jets can we call him a Western Star?

Why?

Chris Doerre (aka Knightmare) has done an interesting draft needs analysis for ESPN - AFL Draft: Your club's list needs Here's his analysis for the MFC - List needs 1. Classy inside midfielder 2. General forward 3. Relieving ruck Draft picks: 23, 28, 54, 62, 91 Who should they draft? As a medium marking forward, Sam Sturt would be a strong addition to Melbourne's front half at 23. Bailey Williams at 28 would be ideal as a relieving ruckman who has uncontainable athleticism as a marking forward. If one of the Demons' preferred choices in the 20s is unavailable, midfielder Sydney Stack would add further class to the club's engine room. Through their NGA, Toby Bedford will provide speed and pressure through the midfield and up forward.

Should be in the real top 30, possible top 20.

Oh, I see, just disappointing.

I put an asterisk beside those players. It will be interesting to see how having that number of players inside the mix of early selections affects the placement of our picks.

Mr Leg. I hope you’re not going to take that insult lying down.

Here’s Bucky’s list ~ 1. JACK LUKOSIUS Key forward, 194cm, 85kg, Woodville-West Torrens  2. SAM WALSH Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons 3. IZAK RANKINE Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, West Adelaide 4. BEN KING Key forward/defender, 202cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons 5. BAILEY SMITH Midfielder, 184cm, 79kg, Sandringham Dragons 6. NICK BLAKEY Forward/midfielder, 195cm, 85kg, NSW-ACT/Sydney Swans Academy 7. TARRYN THOMAS Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, North Launcestonc 8. MAX KING Key forward, 201cm, 84kg, Sandringham Dragons 9. JACKSON HATELY Half-forward, 190cm, 81kg, Central District 10. BAILEY WILLIAMS Key forward/ruckman, 198cm, 95kg, Dandenong Stingrays 11. CONNOR ROZEE Midfielder, 184cm, 72kg, North Adelaide  12. IAN HILL Small forward, 175cm 76kg, Perth 13. XAVIER DUURSMA Midfielder/defender, 185cm, 71kg, Gippsland Power 14. CURTIS TAYLOR Half-forward/midfielder, 186cm, 79kg, Calder Cannons 15. LIAM STOCKER Midfielder, 184cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons 16. ZAC BUTTERS Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, Western Jets 17. RILEY COLLIER-DAWKINS Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, Oakliegh Chargers 18. RHYLEE WEST Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, Calder Cannons  19. EDWARD McHENRY Midfielder/small forward, 176cm, 71kg, Geelong Falcons 20. LUKE FOLEY Midfielder, 187cm, 75kg, Subiaco 21. WILL KELLY Key defender, 193cm, 83kg, Oakleigh Chargers 22. XAVIER O’HALLORAN Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Western Jets  23. LUKE VALENTE Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, Norwood 24. ISAAC QUAYNOR Small defender, 182cm, 82kg, Oakleigh Chargers 25. JYE CALDWELL Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, Bendigo Pioneers 26. CHAYCE JONES Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, Launceston  27. CONNOR McFADYEN Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, Queensland/Brisbane Lions Academy 28. JACK BYTEL Midfielder, 188cm, 82kg, Calder Cannons 29. LUKE ENGLISH Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, Perth 30. KIERAN BRIGGS Ruckman/key forward, 200cm, 98kg, NSW-ACT/GWS Giants Academy

GARY BUCKENARA’S TOP 30 DRAFT PROSPECTS Buckenara sets out his top 30:- 1. JACK LUKOSIUS Key forward, 194cm, 85kg, Woodville-West Torrens 2. SAM WALSH Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons 3. IZAK RANKINE Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, West Adelaide 4. BEN KING Key forward/defender, 202cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons 5. BAILEY SMITH Midfielder, 184cm, 79kg, Sandringham Dragons * 6. NICK BLAKEY Forward/midfielder, 195cm, 85kg, NSW-ACT/Sydney Swans Academy * 7. TARRYN THOMAS Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, North Launcestonc 8. MAX KING Key forward, 201cm, 84kg, Sandringham Dragons 9. JACKSON HATELY Half-forward, 190cm, 81kg, Central District 10. BAILEY WILLIAMS Key forward/ruckman, 198cm, 95kg, Dandenong Stingrays 11. CONNOR ROZEE Midfielder, 184cm, 72kg, North Adelaide 12. IAN HILL Small forward, 175cm 76kg, Perth 13. XAVIER DUURSMA Midfielder/defender, 185cm, 71kg, Gippsland Power 14. CURTIS TAYLOR Half-forward/midfielder, 186cm, 79kg, Calder Cannons 15. LIAM STOCKER Midfielder, 184cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons 16. ZAC BUTTERS Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, Western Jets 17. RILEY COLLIER-DAWKINS Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, Oakliegh Chargers * 18. RHYLEE WEST Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, Calder Cannons 19. EDWARD McHENRY Midfielder/small forward, 176cm, 71kg, Geelong Falcons 20. LUKE FOLEY Midfielder, 187cm, 75kg, Subiaco * 21. WILL KELLY Key defender, 193cm, 83kg, Oakleigh Chargers 22. XAVIER O’HALLORAN Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Western Jets 23. LUKE VALENTE Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, Norwood * 24. ISAAC QUAYNOR Small defender, 182cm, 82kg, Oakleigh Chargers 25. JYE CALDWELL Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, Bendigo Pioneers 26. CHAYCE JONES Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, Launceston * 27. CONNOR McFADYEN Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, Queensland/Brisbane Lions Academy 28. JACK BYTEL Midfielder, 188cm, 82kg, Calder Cannons 29. LUKE ENGLISH Midfielder, 180cm, 76kg, Perth * 30. KIERAN BRIGGS Ruckman/key forward, 200cm, 98kg, NSW-ACT/GWS Giants Academy

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (after first list lodgement) ROUND ONE 1. Carlton 2. Gold Coast 3. Gold Coast (compensation for losing restricted free agent Tom Lynch) 4. St Kilda 5. Port Adelaide (received from Brisbane as part of Sam Mayes trade) 6. Gold Coast (received from Melbourne for Steven May and Kade Kolodjashnij; received from Fremantle as part of Jesse Hogan trade; received from Brisbane as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Port Adelaide as part of Sam Mayes trade; originally received from Fremantle in a pick swap) 7. Western Bulldogs 8. Adelaide 9. Greater Western Sydney (received from Essendon as part of Dylan Shiel trade) 10. Port Adelaide 11. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap; received from North Melbourne as part of trade for Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard) 12. Geelong 13. Adelaide (received from Sydney via Carlton as part of trade for Mitch McGovern) 14. Fremantle (received from Greater Western Sydney as part of Rory Lobb trade) 15. Port Adelaide (received from Hawthorn as part of Chad Wingard-Ryan Burton trade) 16. Adelaide (received from Melbourne in 2017) 17. Richmond 18. Brisbane (received from Collingwood as part of Dayne Beams trade) 19. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Brisbane as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; received from West Coast in 2017) END OF ROUND ONE 20. West Coast (compensation for losing restricted free agent Scott Lycett) ROUND TWO Adelaide (received from Carlton in 2017) 22. West Coast (received from Gold Coast in 2017) 23. Melbourne (received from Fremantle as part of Jesse Hogan trade; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap; originally received from St Kilda in 2017) 24. Gold Coast (received from Brisbane in a pick swap) 25. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle in 2017) 26. Sydney (received from Carlton as part of trade for Mitch McGovern; originally received from Western Bulldogs in 2017) 27. Western Bulldogs (received as compensation for losing unrestricted free agent Luke Dahlhaus to Geelong) 28. Melbourne (received from St Kilda in a pick swap, received from Sydney as part of Dan Hannebery trade; received from Carlton as part of trade for Mitch McGovern; originally received from Adelaide in 2017) 29. Gold Coast (received from Essendon in 2017) 30. Brisbane (received from Fremantle as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap) 31. Fremantle (received from North Melbourne in a pick swap) 32. Western Bulldogs (received from Brisbane as part of Marcus Adams trade; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; originally received from Geelong in 2017) 33. Sydney 34. Essendon (received from Greater Western Sydney in 2017) 35. Brisbane (received from Port Adelaide as part of Sam Mayes trade; originally received from Hawthorn as part of Chad Wingard-Ryan Burton trade) 36. St Kilda (received from Melbourne in a pick swap) 37. Richmond 38. Sydney (received from Collingwood in 2017) 39. Sydney (received from St Kilda as part of Dan Hannebery trade; received from West Coast as part of trade for Tom Hickey) ROUND THREE 40. Sydney (received from Adelaide as part of trade for Mitch McGovern; originally received from Carlton in 2017) 41. Collingwood (received from Brisbane as part of Dayne Beams trade; originally received from Gold Coast in a pick swap) 42. North Melbourne (received from St Kilda via on-trades in 2017) 43. Fremantle (received from Greater Western Sydney as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Carlton as part of trade for Will Setterfield; received from Geelong for state league player Nathan Kreuger; originally received from Brisbane as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy) COLL 44. Collingwood (received from Brisbane as part of Dayne Beams trade; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; originally received from Fremantle in 2017) 45. Western Bulldogs 46. St Kilda (received from Melbourne in a pick swap; originally received from Adelaide in 2017) 47. North Melbourne (received from Fremantle in a pick swap; received from Greater Western Sydney as part of Rory Lobb trade; received from Essendon in 2017) 48. North Melbourne (received from Port Adelaide as part of trade for Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard) 49. North Melbourne (received from Fremantle in a pick swap; received from Port Adelaide in a pick swap; originally received from North Melbourne in 2017) 50. Geelong 51. Geelong (received from Collingwood in a pick swap; received from Sydney in 2017) 52. Greater Western Sydney 53. Hawthorn 54. Melbourne 55. North Melbourne (received from Fremantle in a pick swap; received from Brisbane as part of Lachie Neale trade; received from Geelong as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy; originally received from Richmond in 2017) 56. Brisbane (received from Collingwood as part of Dayne Beams trade) 57. Collingwood (received as compensation for losing unrestricted free agent Alex Fasolo to Carlton) 58. North Melbourne (received from West Coast via on-trades in 2017) ROUND FOUR 59. Collingwood (received from Geelong in a pick swap; received from Gold Coast for George Horlin-Smith; received from Brisbane in a pick swap; received from Geelong as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy; originally received from Carlton in 2017) 60. Collingwood (received from Geelong in a pick swap; received from Gold Coast in 2017) 61. West Coast (received from St Kilda as part of trade for Tom Hickey) 62. Melbourne (received from North Melbourne as part of trade for Braydon Preuss; received from Sydney for Ryan Clarke; received from Geelong for Gary Rohan; originally received from Brisbane as part of trade for Lincoln McCarthy) 63. Western Bulldogs (received from Fremantle in 2017) 64. Richmond (received from the Western Bulldogs for Sam Lloyd) 65. Fremantle (received from Melbourne as part of Jesse Hogan trade; received from St Kilda for Dean Kent; received from Adelaide via on-trades in 2017) 66. Essendon 67. St Kilda (received from Port Adelaide in 2017) 68. Richmond (received from Adelaide for Tyson Stengle; received from Gold Coast in a pick swap; originally received from North Melbourne for Aaron Hall) 69. Carlton (received from Geelong in 2017) 70. Geelong (received from Sydney for Jackson Thurlow) 71. Carlton (received from Greater Western Sydney as part of trade for Will Setterfield) 72. West Coast (received from Hawthorn via on-trades in 2017) 73. Adelaide (received from Melbourne in 2017) 74. Richmond 75. Western Bulldogs (received from Collingwood for Jordan Roughead) 76. West Coast ROUND FIVE 77. Carlton 78. Brisbane (received from Gold Coast in a pick swap) 79. St Kilda 80. Gold Coast (received from Brisbane in a pick swap) 81. Fremantle 82. Western Bulldogs 83. Adelaide 84. Essendon 85. Port Adelaide 86. North Melbourne 87. Geelong 88. Sydney 89. Greater Western Sydney 90. Hawthorn 91. Melbourne 92. Richmond 93. Collingwood 94. West Coast

Father played for us back in the day (70s, I think). If he's off to Brisbane, it's their gain.

Bob - that’s some assumption you make about Hogan or May being pick one if they were in this year’s draft. That might be the case if you were looking at players on ability alone but they are not 17/18 year olds with raw talent and there are other considerations involved such as their age and their history in the game. Hogan will be 24 years of age when he plays his first game with the Dockers and approaching the halfway mark in his career. There are his injuries and illnesses to consider, questions about his attitude and some of the personal issues he’s had to confront over the past six years. Those considerations need to be taken into account in assessing his worth and, in terms of the deal Melbourne got from Fremantle: there was also his contract status that meant our hold on him would have been even weaker this time next year. In the end therefore, I believe that we probably got a fair market value given his determination to go to a state where there are only two teams and the other one is fairly well off for key players and didn’t have the salary cap room. May is three years older than Hogan and while he has shown out as a leader with the Suns, I don’t believe he would go anywhere close to being a #1 in this draft. That said, I have reasonably high expectations of him but we were forced due to the situation to pay a little more for him than we would have liked. We did get our man and it remains to be seen whether we get value from the trade. Let’s hear what JM has to say.