mmwd6

Caleb serong

In both situations though the player is out of contract, so they'll be paying unders. I think 13 and F1 will be close to the actual deal. I know it's unders, but it will likely be evened up with some later pick swaps (NMF2 maybe involved). 15, 16 (F1) --> dunkley, 30, 35, 43 (F3) is just plain insulting and so far from where they need to be for a 26yo who just won the clubs b&f. And then throwing away that pick 15 and still expecting the deal to get done is just pure arrogance. Dogs only lose out on pick 15-18 if they let him walk to the PSD. In that case I can see them doing it. We let LJ walk to the PSD then we're missing out on 13 and a potential top 10 pick (I expect freo to fall next season). That's a situation where you take the unders offered.

If we get a top 10 pick it'll be our own doing using the picks they give us.

Do we know for a fact that LJ hasn't toured WC facilities? Or has it just not been reported.

Wonder how much Grundy would be impacting this trade getting done. We'd want to get Grundy done before hand because otherwise Collingwood will want whatever we get from LJ.

There's definiteley some element of him wanting to leave on good terms, but at the end of the day, if a deal breaks down between clubs, he's choosing himself over his ex employer.

Yeah I don't listen to trade radio. Articles from the west that are usually well connected to freo have said that they aren't offering that pick. Every article for the last couple days has said we are after that pick. If it has been offered we would have taken it Lobb will get traded, but not before they get Jackson, and definitely not before dunkley gets traded.

All the reports have said that freo haven't budged on their initial offer, and are refusing to put NM F2 on the table. They're not going to bend over backwards to satsify us. He either goes to fremantle for 13 and F1, or goes to west coast in the PSD. Those are our two options at this point until WC actually make us an offer. Talks of a four way trade that would net them 8 and 12. Maybe we'll finally see an offer from them after that trade has been done. Fremantle won't trade Lobb (or Meek) until Jackson is locked away. Talks of 13, 13, 20, and 29 is wishful thinking. Talks of WC offering their future first is also wishful thinking. We're probably looking at 13, F1 from freo or 8, F2 from west coast at this point.

12, 20, 23, 26 13, 13, 20 fairly similar i'd say.

I think it's more so they're working on making Jackson interested in them.

I doubt they'd give up their f1. But is 8 and 23 more compelling than 13 and 13?

Freo traded their pick 10 and Adelaide's second (f2?) for pick 8. So at the end of the day they ended up giving us two second round picks and langdon for a two point upgrade.

Lobb at this stage is getting them pick 30. That's essentially their F2. It doesn't open up anything. Lobb only becomes relevant when dogs trade dunkley.

They sent a second back too iirc? There was some deal that year from us that essentially gave them both young and serong. Let them get two picks in before a henry bid. Serong would've been playing for Carlton otherwise. They should be thanking us.

What did we give for langdon? He was ooc and had two consecutive top 5 finishes in their b&f. If it was unders I'm sure they're bringing it up as a reference point.

We've already asked wce. They haven't even made an offer. And it doesn't matter what their best offer is bc LJ doesn't seem to want to go there.

Tom Browne: there has been progress in the trade Also Browne: Melbourne asked for a f2 and freo said no. Huge progress.

It's just not possible. Fremantle is not going to bend over backwards to get a top 10 pick for a guy who's ooc and they can realistically get for two firsts. We're gonna get screwed over badly

Figured it was more related to port and jhf

FWIW, their first offer was 13 + F1 WITH a second or third coming back their way

I think if any 2nd is involved it will be ours going their way. Is there an example of a player being traded for multiple firsts without a second going back?

In a way, LJ saying he's open to any WA club puts us at a disadvantage doesn't it? If he only nominated fremantle then the PSD is not real because he obviously has no desire to go to WC. By keeping both clubs open he's saying, accept a deal with fremantle, or I'm happy to go to WC, but only in the PSD. I know there's all the talk about how he wouldn't do that to the club etc. but when push comes to shove he'll chose his own wellbeing over his ex employer.

Unfortunately think we'll have to settle for 13 + F1 with some later (3rd/4th round) pick swaps.

Geelong. Very hard to deal with this trade period. Trying to get henry and bruh while refusing to part with 7 or 18.

I don't think North F2 will end up with us at all tbh. I also don't think freo trade away Lobb, and 20 for an 8 place rise when it's going straight to us. They have the upper hand in this trade and they know it.